People who aren’t following the campaign simply won’t be aware that Santorum’s blatant distortions of Romney’s record are untrue. People blithely assume that things presented as facts on a tv screen have at least some truth in them. Many understand that there IS no truth in them….if they’ve been following the campaign.
The others need a responsible media to sort out fact from fiction…..and there isn’t one.
I suspect that the Dems will play havoc with Wisconsin and keep Romney’s victory to single digits. The Obama supporters are showing up at the polls for the recall, so they will be a force for santorum today.
14. agree which is what makes me nervous. Washington post exit polls show 10% dems voted in the primary today and vast majority of them I am sure voted for Santo, this will make the race much closer than it should have been.
They aren’t POLLS. He lies and says they are. They are not. They are numbers he puts on his site to get gullible people to go on his site. Show me evidence he does “polling,” and then I’ll believe you.
If you take the unmarried, married question from the CNN exits and compare that number to other similar states then you get 70% married voters compared to 30% unmarried voters, which would put Romney’s winning margin between 7-8 points.
Apparently CNN did not ask that question in the 2008 Wisconsin exits.
Well this totally sucks, Dem’s voting in HUGE numbers for Santorum in Wisconsin means Romney only wins by 6 or 7 points!! That means this race goes on even longer! Thanks to the Open Primaries!!
Romney had to win by Double Digits tonight in Wisconsin to make a statement, now it looks like that’s not gonna happen!
What do you mean it will have an effect? Will it encourage him, discourage him? Personally, I think it will have no effect. He’s not dropping out unless he’s either in danger of losing PA, or he actually does.
Dave – those 12% may think the same as Palin, that we need a Santa Claus, eh, I mean, “True Conservative” to beat Obama. Or maybe they are the Newties who have forgot that Newt was not the one who balanced the federal government budget. And let’s not forget we do have a few of Paulities who somehow got it in their head that Paul can beat anyone.
I didn’t say it would be enough to cause him to drop out, but I think it will still have an effect on him. If nothing else, more people like Dr. Land (#7 and #20) are going to start getting on his case to do the right thing.
That’s easy, it’s Santorum. Gingrich has at least given up the delusion that he’s going to be the nominee. Now he says his goal is to “try and influence the platform.” Santorum still thinks that he has a shot at actually winning the nomination.
Keep in mind, I don’t think this will end until April 24. It’s not over yet. As Stallone said in the Rocky movies, “Nothing is over!!!” Mitt needs to score the KO blow in PA on Santorum. Then, Romney Balboa can focus on his fight with Obama Creed.
127. MarK, it didn’t pay off for him last time, and he dropped out long after some around here were asking him to stop burning through his kids inheritance. Remember? Or did I fail to shout loudly enough?
It’s always worth being stubborn when you wind up winning. Only in that case, the stubbornness attribute gets rewritten as perseverance.
If Mitt continues to trail Obama in the national polls, the pressure is going to build on Santorum to drop out sooner than later. And the pressure is not going to be exclusively coming from “party elders” and the so-called establishment. It’s going to come from concerned grass-root conservatives, too. Dr. Land is just one of many voices that will start calling for a halt in the intra-party squabbles. He is going to find it increasingly hard to ignore those.
I am not making any predictions, but let’s just say I would not be surprised to see Rick drop out about a week maybe two from today.
Now Santorum’s campaign spokeslady on CNN is now saying that Texas is the next big contest after Pennsylvania. If his campaign seriously believes that they will be still in the race by the Texas Primary (May 29th) then they are as delusional as their candidate.
Santorum amazes me. I’ve never seen a politician try to destroy his political career as much as Santorum. With Newt, I cut him some slack since he is at the end of his long political career. But, Santorum is young and could’ve had a future, but, he’s angered and alienated so many GOPers, I can’t see him going anywhere were he to run at a future election year. Palin has a more prosperous future than Santorum.
As long as he wins by 10 points or more, he will have a great great night in terms of expectations! If that Fox News Exit Poll is the final number then it will be a great night, and the race will be called before 9:30pm
Its not unusual at all for a challenger to trail an incumbent President at this point in the polls, even one who is particularly competent. Reagan trailed Carter badly most of the race, pretty much up until the last debate which was a disaster for Carter.
In fact, Romney is in a very strong position for a challenger. He has a chance to really finish strong, particularly with a candidate who is as tone deaf (despite what his cheerleaders in the msm say) as Obama. He is doubling down on the stupid with his attacks on the Supreme Court and those of us who actually fund the other 50% of the country, the taxpayers.
149. I really don’t think Santorum has a political career beyond the primaries. What does he have to lose? If Romney loses to Obama conservatives won’t say it was because Santorum stayed in the race and brought Romney down, they will say Romney was too moderate.
April 3 D.C. Winner take all 19 16 delegates are allocated to the winner of the district-wide vote. The other 3 delegates are the district’s RNC officials.
April 3 Md. Winner take all 37 10 delegates are allocated to the winner of the statewide vote, and 24 delegates are awarded to the winner of each congressional district (3 per district). The other 3 delegates are the state’s RNC officials.
April 3 Wis. Winner take all 42 15 delegates are awarded to the winner of the statewide vote. 24 delegates are awarded to the winner of each congressional district (3 per district). The other 3 delegates are the state’s RNC officials.
Now Santorum’s campaign spokeslady on CNN is now saying that Texas is the next big contest after Pennsylvania. If his campaign seriously believes that they will be still in the race by the Texas Primary (May 29th) then they are as delusional as their candidate.
Are you really surprised by this considering the source? It’s just basic spin. Why would a candidate go out and announce the date when his defeats are decisive in advance? You’ve got to keep your troops motivated, after all.
Expecting anything different would be akin to Obama begging the Taliban for negotiations while confirming a firm date for withdrawal. Normally, you wouldn’t want to demoralize your own troops while energizing your adversary.
But, Santorum is young and could’ve had a future, but, he’s angered and alienated so many GOPers, I can’t see him going anywhere were he to run at a future election year.
Yeah, well. Pat Buchanan challenged HW all the way to the convention in 1992, and was resoundingly castigated for his divisiveness against a sitting Prez and head of the party. He seems to have done fine for himself careerwise. I’m not too worried about Santo’s future prospects. He’ll either be an opinionator on the fringe of the GOP/conservative movement. Or else he’ll go into lobbying.
disagree with this assumption that all the candidates became better over the tough primary. I think Santorum got worse. And Newt fell flat, even in the south. Just Palin defending this poisonous system of a primary we have. I dunno, I guess you could find some positives. But I truly believe Santo became a worse candidate.
Is Wisconsin gonna be like Ohio and Michigan where the rural areas come in first and it looks like Santorum is winning, and then the Urban/Surburban areas come in and Romney takes the lead and the win?
Someone on another website posted that Romney needs to carry a deficit clock around with him everywhere he goes and set in near him while he speaks so it can be seen. Can someone who’s connected into the Romney campaign pass this idea along?
150. It will be irrelevant, and Romney will win anyway. Polls are close now, but as Mitt approaches the magic number and as it becomes more and more obvious that Mitt will indeed get to 1144 during the primary season (as if it’s in doubt now), folks will tire greatly at Santorum’s act, and his welcome will be completely worn out. I’m looking forward to seeing the polling in PA go towards Mitt over the next couple of weeks. Should be fun!
And oh, by the way (and I know everyone here knows this), the general election has already begun.
I, for one, feel that Mitt has gotten much better over the drawn-out primary. In televized interviews, he has struck me as more relaxed and less tense. Even with challenging interviewers like Megyn Kelly.
Jack will still be convinced that she has it in the bag. This comment is just a ploy to keep everyone off guard and unsuspecting until she swoops in at the perfect moment at the convention, yanks the microphone away and delivers a speech that floors everyone into handing her the nomination.
She has us right where she wants us. Sarah Palin. An unconventional campaign for unconventional times.
215. It’s hilarious. Let’s say these guys are racing each other in a 4000 meter run. Romney hits the 2000 meter mark, and Santorum declares “the race is only half over”. The problem is that Santorum hasn’t even hit the 1000 meter mark yet. He’s going to be lapped, but in his delirium he thinks that if he just keeps plugging along, he’ll prevail.
LOL at Santorum comparing himself to Reagan. If Reagan were alive today, he’d hate Santorum. Santorum is a classless nutjob. Reagan was a classy, great guy with a lot of personality and dignity. Santorum wouldn’t even deserve to be able to shine Reagan’s shoes.
Dane coming in for Santorum. So definitely some operation chaos going on. But Romney doing really well in Kenosha. About as well as McCain did 4 years ago, when he won statewide by 18%. So it looks like the Ryan endorsement really mattered.
They went to talking about Obama’s criticism of Ryan’s plan. Saying Obama down to scare tactics cause he has nothing else, but Palin says American people smart enough to avoid getting scared to that degree again and Obama doesn’t give people credit
Santorum’s stupid staffer just said that if Santorum wins Pennsylvania, and Texas he thinks he’ll be the nominee. What an idiot. New York has more delegates than Penn, and California has more delegates than Texas. I don’t think anyone thinks Santorum’s going to win 3 out of those 4 (or really even 2).
Santo’s spin aside, he’s got to win his former home state of Penn to remain viable. I’m pulling for Mitt to win there just to put a finer point on his foreseeable victory. If Santo loses PA and still stays in, the results afterwards will be nothing more than public embarrassment. Such things have happened in the past, even before proportional allocation. But to little effect.
I’m pretty surprised how close the race in WI is right now. I would have expected Mitt to do much better in Madison and Green Bay than he is. But maybe MEM is right, and the problem is Operation Hilarity. Either way, Rick continues to outperform his exit polls. I think he does this because exit pollsters would rather not bother go into the boonies and talk to the masses for a whole day.
Santorum thinks that he’s Reagan, and that he’s going to be the frontrunner in 2016 by staying in and coming in a strong second and waiting for Mitt to lose. What he doesn’t realize is that even if Romney does lose in the fall, Santorum will be an asterisk in 2016. It will be like Pat Buchanan coming in second in 1996, only to poll at about 1 percent among Republicans in 2000. Buchanan was forced out of his own party and ran on the Reform ticket that year because Republicans wanted nothing to do with him. Santorum doesn’t realize that his brand of authoritarianism is at odds with American conservatism.
Despite popular demand around here for Mitt to curb-stomp Santo, I have to credit Mitt for being affable with his rivals. For a while, Newt hated him so much that he never called to congratulate Mitt for his victories. And then they had the “secret” meeting a few weeks back that presumably was held specifically to be leaked to the press. The two buried the hatchet, and Newt has been cheerful about Mitt’s inevitability ever since.
Mitt and Santo have supposedly telephoned to offer congrats the whole time, which is just plain gentlemanly good sportsmanship. And Santo, despite his speechifying rhetoric, has been on the conceding end for some time. Mitt has stopped punching downwards generally, and the two are still on speaking terms. This is good for party unity. And every last bit of that will be essential to reach the magical 270 in November.
Mitt Romney is doing conspicuously well so far in Kenosha County, Wisc., where he leads Rick Santorum 53 percent to 30 percent so far with 15 percent of the vote reported.
Kenosha County, which is often competitive in general and primary elections, is at the heart of Wisconsin’s First Congressional district, which is represented by Paul Ryan. Mr. Ryan endorsed Mr. Romney late last week.
351…c’mon now the kool aid romney supporters need a reality check. The best political thing to happen to mitt romney was losing the primary in 2008. THERE WAS ZERO CHANCE mitt romney would have beat obama in 2008….ditto zero chance a mccain/romney ticket would have beat obama in 2008…to think some romney supporters would believe otherwise is kinda scary.
Is this really going to go on for two more months? Who were the wise guys in the GOP establishment who thought it would be a good idea to have a lengthy primary season? Do we really want to go through another iteration of “Animals for Newt” between now and June, when Romney wins 1144 delegates by winning California?
In the escalating battle between the administration and the judiciary, a federal appeals court apparently is calling the president’s bluff — ordering the Justice Department to answer by Thursday whether the Obama Administration believes that the courts have the right to strike down a federal law, according to a lawyer who was in the courtroom.
The order, by a three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit, appears to be in direct response to the president’s comments yesterday about the Supreme Court’s review of the health care law. Mr. Obama all but threw down the gauntlet with the justices, saying he was “confident” the Court would not “take what would be an unprecedented, extraordinary step of overturning a law that was passed by a strong majority of a democratically elected Congress.”
This close Wisconsin margin is because Southeastern Wisconsin (Paul Ryan’s district) has less reported in. Milwaukee only has 4% reporting in. Romney’s margin will expand as that part of the state reports in.
Looks like Romney is going to win all of the delegates in Maryland. Not even the farthest west CD will go for Rick, as his lead in Garrett County is too small to make up for Mitt’s leads in the other counties in that district.
Santorum’s only delegates tonight will be in Wisconsin. And it’s going to either be 6 or 9 delegates out of a total of 98 for the day.
He won’t say it, maybe Sununu could but after tonight’s speech and Santobama’s line, “You know me” and Mitt’s tough campaign in PA coming, they should say, “PA knows Santorum, that’s why they kicked him out of office by 18%!!!” He supported Specter over Toomey. End it, Mitt!
Attacking the Supreme court has never been a wise move historically, just ask FDR. His court packing scheme stopped the New Deal in its tracks. Obama’s comment regarding the unprecedentness of the Supreme court is Ludicrous and downright infuriating. Of course the supreme court has the power to strike down laws passed by congress. Thats the entire purpose of the Supreme court, its why we have a seperation of powers in the first place. Its to provide Checks and balances. The Supreme court striking down Obamacare would simply be the Court doing the job it was intended to do. Its the opposite of unprecedented, its the Supreme Court doing the job it was created to do.
Not to Mention the SCOTUS’s approval rating is much higher than congresses and is equal to or greater than Obama’s
I have a feeling this will come back to haunt Obama.
Good article on Team Obama’s plans if he is reelected. Not only are we talking about the Russia issue last week, they had Palestinian politicians saying the have been told by the Obama administration that he will back Palestinian statehood if reelected. And for you SOCONS out there, pretty sure Obama will be “evolving” on same sex marriage. His White HOuse website in 2009 even said they intend to get rid of DOMA. Expect more unilateral Executive Orders and attacking of the Judiciary. Obama has no respect for the Supreme Court as was evident this week.
We cannot relect this guy. Santorum get out or stay in and focus your fire on Obama like Newt is now. Financially we are a house of cards and Obama is about to thow a big old Angry Bird at us. He doesnt care if it all falls apart.
Come come, now. Everyone gets bad info from their speechwriters every now and then. In 2008, Mitt left a Cuban American audience in awkward silence during the ’08 campaign when he ended his speech with a little Spanish lingo, that was Castro’s well known revolutionary slogan.
Soon Romney’s going to be closer to the 1144 he needs, than Santorum is going to be to catching up. In fact I think it’s fair to say Santorum will never reach the number of delegates Romney has right now.
457. He was on Hannity this afternoon. He talked about how Romney is the likely nominee, but he wasn’t getting out. Then he said that he and Santorum were “putting together the conservative agenda” for the fight against Obama and that they’re willing to have Romney join them. He tried to make it sound like he was leading the campaign against Obama even if Romney was the nominee.
Obama is already backtracking on the Supreme Court shakedown incident. This is beyond dumb in an election year. The arrogance and narcissism of this guy is unreal. He forgets he is not a dictator with absolute power. Whatever comes of it, KUDOS to the judge that had the balls to say it, and give homework, lol.
Good sense of history. Nixon made the famous “Checkers” speech to justify his place on the Republican ticket. The Humphrey campaign made an ad that had an offstage person just laughing at the notion of a Vice President Agnew, and everyone over 35 (and nerds under that age) now what happened to Quayle.
462: The problem with htese two jokers is that they BOTH are former Fox News employees and get TONS of free airtime on Hannity’s radio and TV shows. Because of this exposure, they believe they ARE the influential movers within the party.
Somebody needs to read the results of that Rassmussen poll with Romney picked as LEADER of the GOP
Satorum can have his more than expected delegates in WA state and his 9-12 in WI. It does not matter. Mitt will get to 1144 on June 5th the day of CA/NJ if he underperforms or overperforms either way. This is over. There is nothing Satorum or a bunch of tricky Dems can do about that.
I just checked and found reports that Wisconsin is WTA by Congressional District–if seen a number of reports that haven’t had that clear (and have actually inaccurately said that all 42 would go to the winning candidate.
Well Toomey and Corbett I believe have already said they will not endorse, but hopefully this will change things, hopefully they will be persuaded to endorse Mitt to help him lock up this thing and get Santorum out of the way.
We all knew Ronald Reagan and Santy/Panties is NO Ronald Reagan.
Compare Mitt’s speech tonight w/Sant. Romney’s was all about America and how to save her; Rick’s was all about him being Reagan and Washington crossing the Delaware. And oh yeah, how he was a coal miner’s daughter.
All those people Santo drags up behind him on stage look like a horde of so-con zombies. Silly at this point in the game. Someone made a good point earlier about how Romney has done the opposite since assuming the one-true nominee mantle. All eyes on Mitt.
Nixon’s problem in ’52 was a minor scandal. I don’t think Democrats ever dismissed him as a lightweight. Indeed, even the ones that have continued to loath him for the past 60 years often point to him as the most intelligent Republican president in the post-war era.
#497: Palin has more going for her as a media personality than the others. However, I don’t expect her to ever run for office again.
Ozzy, I’m still mad at her for her dumb position on continuing the race when it’s obvious Mitt has won it and we NEED to use the resources to fight Obama, not each other. Mitt needs to be running ads against Obama, not keeping his foot on Santy’s panties.
#501: I agree. Except Rush has 12 million listeners or something. And some people are still listening to Palin. Santy keeps going on because people keep voting for him. When this is finally over, Palin and Rush will be irrelevant. Right now they are just dividers not uniters. Stupid.
You guys keep calling her irrelevant yet she seems to have a following and it looks like the ratings on the Today show might prove she is still a viable force that people are glued to or want to watch.
I don’t see the comparison and I don’t think I’ve ever heard it made before. Nixon, as much as he’s hated (and Palin doesn’t know what hatred is when put up against Nixon…modern writers STILL take potshots at him), was never dismissed as a lightweight. It didn’t happen.
He legit scared Democrats because he was a smart, clever, nasty piece of work. Democrats are not scared of Palin. They just mock her.
As long as we’re talking about Nixion, I think of all the elections in America history 1960 is the one that would of been better if it was decided the other way, and it wouldn’t be just better for the Republican party.
It would of been better for the Republican party, Nixion, Kennedy, and the country as a whole. No watergate, no kennedy assassination, no percieved weakness when it comes to dealing with communists,(Bay of Pigs)Perhaps better leadership and direction when it comes to dealing with Vietnam. After eight years of Nixion the democrats can have Kennedy for 1968-1976.
Think about it you stop a Assassination, Watergate, the turmoil of the 60s as a whole,(or at least reduce it)and people’s general faith in Government remains high. Nixion gets a great spot in history and Kennedy actually earns his.
We are basing this off of the results map compared to wikipedia’s congressional district map. There is a congressional district centered around Green Bay, and two in western Wisconsin. Santorum will win all three of those.
There is a congressional district centered around Appleton and Fond Du Lac, and Santorum is likely to win there as well.
However, Romney wins the vast majority of the delegates in Wisconsin, and also all of them in DC and MD.
I’ve been waiting to see Mitt’s margin in Wisconsin go over 4%. It’s obvious that that would happen, given when the race was called….but I had to wait until 81% of the precincts were in for Mitt to go up to 5%.
>>You guys keep calling her irrelevant yet she seems to have a following and it looks like the ratings on the Today show might prove she is still a viable force that people are glued to or want to watch.
You must have missed the segment where she really got into the cooking segment. With cue cards in hand. It was AWESOME!
He wasn’t talking about what “Business” wants and needs, he was talking about the country needs businesses, and people need free-enterprise. Its pretty simple really. You’ve been conditioned to listen for handouts, not your fault.
Yeah, Nixon would have made a fine president in 1960. He would have been an extension of Eisenhower’s presidency, he wouldn’t have bundled foreign policy like Kennedy and Johnson. Hell, the Cuban Missile Crisis would NEVER had happened. The social uproar of the 60s would have been limited to the civil rights movement, which Nixon probably would have shepherded almost as well as Johnson.
Romney got 1/3 of the Democratic vote, which means he will take lots of votes from Obama in the general, and since there will be very few Republicans voting for Obama, it will be a blowout in November.
Guess what I noticed. ZERO, I mean ZERO talk of Romney being “weak.” Things are picking up steam. And with the looming failure in the Supreme Court of obamacare, and Obama’s stupid stunt of lecturing the SCOTUS, the economy, gas/oil, on and on etc…Obama is in for a major contest. Believe it.
Romney has won more than 70 delegates today, including all 16 in DC, all but 9, which haven’t been decided yet, in Maryland, and at least 30 in Wisconsin, with 22 to be determined. So, he should end up with more than 650, and that’s conservative.
I would like to see Mitt and his campaign staff now go a full 24 hours without saying something stupid that will detract from these victories. It seems like that has been happening way too often after Mitt’s victories and it needs to be avoided.
Fox News, especially Bret Baier and his panelists, have gone 100% behind Romney. They are on board, calling for Santorum to get out, and moving to general election mode. They even replayed Mitt’s speech. And they have Ryan on right now attacking Obama and pumping Mitt for like 15 minutes straight with no tough questions. Love it! It’s all over, folks! Let’s just make sure we lock down PA and then we’re into GE mode.
It looks like there’s a strong likelihood that Mitt takes 50% of the vote in Maryland. The only four counties which have not reported the final 11% of statewide precincts happen to be Mitt’s 3 strongest counties and another of his decent ones. I did some basic estimation and 50% appears likely.
Before we get all excited about Ryan doing such a great job of delivering his CD, you need to understand that Romney was always going to run away with that CD. Kenosha is where his dad relocated American Motors to, from Detroit. Kenosha (and Racine, for that matter) county was always going to go big for Romney.
Having said that, I do like the energy Romney and Ryan seem to give each other.
His scolding of the Supreme Court showed how he thinks of himself as a dictator. A so-called constitutional scholar that has such disdain and lack of understanding of the history and purpose of the tricameral system? Amazing.
Maybe he’s not really a US Citizen. Maybe his time with communists rubbed off on him. Maybe his time in that radical church really did cause him to burn with hatred against White America.
I’m actually finding it hard to believe there’s any other explanation for the things he’s done.
Mr. K.G. said that too–until I reminded him that Hillary Clinton, born a Methodist in Illinois and a former Goldwater Girl pretty much has the exact same mindset as Obama.
To someone on our side of the aisle, Obama seems foreign, anti-American–but he’s just your typical proud progressive, marxist-leaning liberal Democrat. Hillary proudly called herself a “progressive in the early 20th century tradition.” It was those early American progressives that inspired both the communists and the nazis.
21% of voters disapproved of Walker’s job performance and these folks went 36-19 for Santy (another 29% went for Paul). More than 7% of Santorum’s support comes from this crowd- almost certainly all Operation Hilarity people.
Everyone turn Fox News on if you can. They’re replaying Mitt’s speech AGAIN, and you will get to personally witness the panel ripping Santorum to shreds after, and watch Paul Ryan on fire supporting Mitt and attacking Obama.
I’m curious to know how many NON-evangelicals actually vote for Santorum. Any? People marvel that Mitt gets the Catholic vote. It’s probably because Catholics have never been taught to vote against Mormons. They just ignorantly vote for the best person.
I remember having dinner in 2007 with some Jewish business acquaintances from Boston who loved Mitt and wanted him to be POTUS. We said he can probably never be elected. A bunch of evangelical Christians won’t vote for him.
They thought we were insane.
Sarah Palin tonight on FOX keeps reassuring us that “everybody” will be on board with the “winner.” Well, Mitt is obviously the winner; get on board already.
Check out Drudge. I love the picture of Santorum looking less than leadership material, with the big headline underneath that says “Maybe by 2016, enough delegates? This is the lead, and they have a re-cap of Mitt’s speech up there as well.
Still 43-37 in Wisconsin for Mitt…..looks like a 6 point victory in the end, to bad the dem’s voted in masse for Santorum or it would have been alot worse, looks like PPP hit Wisconsin right on the head
Gene Simmons of Kiss fame endorsed Mitt today–even though he voted for Obama in 2008:
Simmons was a supporter of the foreign policy of the George W. Bush administration. He supported the 2003 invasion of Iraq, writing on his website: “I’m ashamed to be surrounded by people calling themselves liberal who are, in my opinion, spitting on the graves of brave American soldiers who gave their life to fight a war that wasn’t theirs…in a country they’ve never been to… simply to liberate the people therein”. In a follow-up, Simmons explained his position and wrote about his love and support for the United States: “I wasn’t born here. But I have a love for this country and its people that knows no bounds. I will forever be grateful to America for going into World War II, when it had nothing to gain, in a country that was far away… and rescued my mother from the Nazi German concentration camps. She is alive and I am alive because of America. And, if you have a problem with America, you have a problem with me”.
I think MEM and MWS and other critics of Mitt’s political skills have spent too much time in Aaron Sorkin land. That was a bad speech tonight? Compared too what? John McCain? Bob dole? The Bushes?
Romney is the best Republican nominee since Reagan, and it isn’t close. Take out Reagan and he is the best since Ike. I don’t know how any swing voter listening to his speech tonight could come away without being remindedof how incompetent Obama has been and with a resolve to vote against him.
It is time to stop the silly suggestion that Mitt is some awful candidate that is doomed to defeat in November. It is nonsense. Who would have been better? Time to put away the foolishness and put our efforts into defeating Obama.
Hilarious hearing these conservatives on the Fox panel basically saying, “hey, Santorum’s young. He should get out now, to preserve his brand and make another run”. When clearly not a one of them believes it. That’s the problem here. We’re in a bizarro-land where everything Santorum says has no basis in reality and major Republicans are forced to say equally absurd things to try to convince him to get out. It’s like we’re inventing a new arithmetic. Santorum says: 11 + 4= fgh36sa* GOP establishmentarians try various derivations. Yes, but: 42 + 11= shc84cjdl? No? How ’bout 32 – 9= ah27d1@^^xxsgbda39783
Here are some of my suggestions for arguments GOP establishmentarians could make to Santorum, which he might find persuasive:
1. You should get out, Rick. If you do, you’ll be well-positioned to succeed King Louis XV and prevent the French Revolution.
2. You should get out, Rick. It turns out that your face is quite the aphrodisiac and your presence on television is driving contraception sales through the roof.
3. You should get out, Rick. We can send you back to the grassy knoll. You know what to do.
4. You should get out, Rick. Your grandfather needs your help at the coal-mine.
587. in 76, no gop would have won. Nixion had just been impeached not too long before that and it was very fresh in everyone’s mind. It’s not honest of Santorum to compare that race with this one. Oh wait. Were talking Santorum, who has issues with honesty.
591 – Reagan didn’t win because he was a conservative. He won because Carter was incompetent and because of his optimistic American exceptionalism message. If anyone is following in Reagan’s footsteps with their approach, it is Mitt. Reagan was not an angry ideologue like Sanatorium.
So what if Rick doesn’t get the memo? What happens in the coverage of the race dictates to a large extent what happens in the race. Get the media calling for Rick to drop out, and voters will feel his cause is hopeless and it’s time to take it to Obama.
#599: Yup, Mitt’s speech was entirely Reaganesque. Mitt struggles because he’s not as charming as Reagan. (Who is?). If you’re going to be an actor, talk show host or politician, it truly helps to be Irish, Southern or African American.
601 – you are right that Romney has weaknesses as a campaigner, but it is hard to say that are more significant than the weaknesses of anyone else we have nominated since Reagan. Romney is a good candidate. There are plenty of reasons to be excited about his chances.
It will be by 6, but yeah a bigger margin would have felt better. Remember, about 2 or 3 of Rick’s percentage points are from Democratic crossover voters. Mitt won Tea Partiers and tied among Evangelicals. I’ll take it any day.
Actually, 1976 was winnable. In fact, Ford came incredibly close to winning. The last several weeks of his campaign were probably the best closing that any candidate has ever had. If he hadn’t messed up on Poland during the debate, or if the election had been held only a week later, Ford may well have won.
That mistake aside, Ford was actually ran a strong general campaign and was able to nail Carter for his inexperience.
I really, really, hope Mitt wins Pennsylvania and destroys Santorums life long career in politics. I once thought I wouldnt find anyone I despised more than Newt until this prick named Rick showed up. He’s like a neighbor that stopped in and is annoying as hell and just won’t get the hint it’s time to leave. Time to kick his ass out.
Well it looks like Romney will only end up winning by 4 lousy points, thanks to the Dems!
Romney leading by 4.8, when you take more accurate percentages.
Also Waukesha county, that had Republican turnout of over 45k even in 2008, when the primary turnout was 410k total, the primary turnout is already 710k for this year and raising.
Romney is leading in Waukesha by 30 points at the moment, just 18.5k votes in this far, in 2008 the turnout there was 45k, slightly less than in Milwaukee county that year, so I think the turnout in Waukesha could be between 60k-80k, at worst it should be at least 50k, those precincts coming in should increase Romney’s lead. Also 3% of Milwaukee precincts still unreported.
609 — I also looked at the numbers and I think you are right. At this moment I think there are 50,000 outstanding votes in Waukesha, if voter turnout from Dane, Washington, Racine, Kenosha, Milwaukee are any indication. If that is true Romney could increase his lead by at 25,000 votes. I think the remaining precincts in Waukesha are from the larger more populated precincts.
Waukesha seems to have a history of taking forever to report results. In other news, I think Romney will win CD6 (Oshkosh, Fond du Lac) narrowly, but it all depends the margin in Watertown in northern Jefferson County. Since Romney won that county by over 1100 votes and he needs to close a 200 vote deficit, I think he will win the CD6. Barely. 3 CDs for Santy, 9 delegates. 5 CDs for Romney. 33 delegates.
Well, Wisconsin was pretty embarassing: a 4-point Romney win in a state where polling showed him anywhere from 7 to 10 points ahead. Not very impressive.
Earlier in this thread, I predicted a narrow Romney win in Wisconsin today followed by a narrow win for Santorum in Pennsylvania on April 24th. Well, I was right about Wisconsin (though it was even narrower than the ten-point win I expected), and I expect I am right about Pennsylvania.
Which means this no-offense, all-defense, marathon tennis match continues, with neither candidate having yet succeeded in breaking the other guy’s serve.
NORTH CAROLINA Composite 3/16-3/29 Final
1. Romney 25.9-31
1. Santorum 29-31.4
3. Paul 8.9-15
4. Gingrich 14.9-18.4 -1.2-12.9
5. DK 11.6-12.1
(While Paul and Gingrich’s CPSRs overlap, Gingrich’s downward trend puts him behind Paul in terms of momentum, I think.)
That’s right: Romney and Santorum are TIED in North Carolina, a state where, by rights, Romney should not be competitive. Might this finally be the state we’ve been waiting for, the contest where one of the candidates finally breaks the other guy’s serve on his home turf? Stay tuned.
Romney won huge among Republicans in Wisconsn, Penn will be a closed primary…Romney won among just about all demographics in Wisconsin, if not for the Dem’s crossover votes then Romney wins Wisconsin by 13 or 14 points…simple as that
Right now, it’s 5 points. However, Waukesha has yet to report half of its precincts, including all of its largest suburban and urban precincts. Romney’s margin is currently 5 points and will increase to 6 when it’s all said and done.
Also, Santorum has routinely outperformed his polling.
Also, Santorum received a 2-3 point benefit from mischief-driven Democrat crossover voters.
Romney won among Republicans by 14 percentage points, according to the exit polls. It’s also the first time he cracked 50% among Tea Partiers. He also tied among Evangelicals.
Anyway you look at it, this was an impressive win. A game-changer.
This congressional redistricting plan, only one that has passed Wisconsin legislature, and which survived the lawsuits that were determined in March, has Ozaukee in CD-6, so Romney takes it easily.
Based on 2010 senatorial election results, Washington County is by far the closest county to Waukesha when it comes to turnout and on the percentage they voted for Republican candidate. Washington county turnout doubled from 2008 Republican primary turnout. Romney is leading in Waukesha by 31 points at the moment, just 18.5k votes in this far, in 2008 the turnout there was 45k, if it had similar turnout boost than Washington County, we could expect 90k votes total turnout. I think Waukesha county turnout will by 70k-90k.
Found out the problem in waukesha on the brookfield patch site.
Last election brookfield results were left off election night and the race flipped for a local race. So now all the municipal clerks have to drive the downloaded vote packs to the county office before they can be doublechecked and go online.
They posted the results up and have the media counting the results to find out about local races. So because there was a problem with the last election they make the problem worse.
Imagine if this had been a tight race you would have had wolf blitzer having an exclusive phone interview with someone from waukesha.
Hope they post the results tonight so I don’t have to hear the libs drone on about a four point win instead of a six point win.
OMG!! Waukesha seriously needs to upgrade their system of counting votes. How embarrassing. I think Romney will increase his lead by 25,000 to 30,000 votes once these incompetent boobs deliver the results.
Actually Nixon was never impeached. The only Presidents to be impeached are Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton. However it is still widely believed and taught that Nixon was impeached. He resigned thus making Ford the only President never to be elected.
Waukesha county clerk is the same person who last election didn’t press save for the broofield results in the state supreme court election which gave prosser 8,000 more votes.
Now she has come up with a system of no results reported from municipalities to the media and she will double check them all after they are delivered and will release the results when permissable. When permissible might be thursday.
This clerk takes the cake.
I heard howard fineman and eugene robinson mock rommney for only winning by 4 percent.
635. Never mind; you were absolutely right. CNN has its head up its you-know-what. Those are the same numbers as Google is reporting. CNN and Google disagree about what percentage of the vote they represent, 97.5% or 99%, but it’s the same totals. And you’re right: The margin is 4.9, not 4.
Google is precincts reporting, based on the 2008 and 2012 primary turnouts, and general Republican percentage, Waukesha turnout will 70k-90k. So the total vote in is somewhere between 91-94% at the moment.
Romney is also doing better in the newer results percentage wise 61.74-28.44 with 61.6k in compared to 60.4-29.2 with 18.5k in. If we take the 61.7-28.4 ratio and the eventual turnout is in Waukesha county is in 80k-90k range, based on those assumptions I calculated new totals to total vote, and Santorum’s and Romney’s vote. Total vote 789k, Romney’s vote 349k, Santorum’s vote 291k.
615- You are discounting the Sunday effect in North Carolina, which we also saw in Mississippi. Santorum will have no trouble in NC, Ken, WV, Ark or Tex and probably Neb. I’m not so sure about SD, but I think Romney will sweep the rest. But if the pattern holds, Romney should take Pa. This will not knock Santorum out though. He knows he has the evangelical vote and he will continue to doggedly pursue whatever crazy vision he has for himself. It will still take until June 5 for Romney to break 1142.
This month and in May many of the Caucus states have their state conventions where they do the realy delegate picking.
Currently, Romney is over performing his straw poll results and Santorum is under performing his, so most likely the delegate math will continue to worsen for Santorum even before the next primaries on April 24.
By the time we get to May, Mitt might just be trotting around the bases after hitting a grand slam…
Romney gave one of his best speeches last night – if he were talking to the local chamber of commerice. By my count, he did not mention students, seniors, medicare, social security, Iran or Afghanistan. He did talk about business and what he would do for corporations.
Wall Street was cheering. Main Street was puzzled.
654 I am a middle income father of 6 children, a christian, conservative,a 30 year voting republican. I am not Wall street, though I have a 401k in wall street. I am main street and I have been cheering a long time for Romney. You sir are the only one that puzzels me.
The Primary is all but over. Short of Romney getting shot or hit by a bus, this thing is done and done. Santorum said it was just half time, but this is a game of make-it take-it, and Romney is hitting far more shots than Rick. And like Kentucky vs Kansas, they can now just dribble around and not do much and still win with a commanding lead. The game is all over except for the formalities.
All Rick has left is PA, and does it really even matter if he wins here or not?? Winning PA, even decisively, won’t do a thing to stop Mitt from getting to 1144. So why why why is this guy still in… all but being Obama’s #1 surrogate at this point in continuing to damage our nominee? Does he really think he’s going to become the heir apparant? The VP choice, which WON’T be him, will assume that role instantly. And we have a very deep bench filled with people who didn’t lose their last race by 18 pts.