A this point, is it really only a matter of how much space Romney gets between himself and the #2 finisher?
Have at it in the comments!
In everyone’s honest opinion, is it just important for Romney to just win or is it more important that he win big like a 15-20 point win to shut his critics and the ABR crowd up?
2016 will be a landslide for Rand Paul.
Increase our numbers by +10%, and these primaries will be a lock.
The only thing Rand Paul will run for in 2016 is re-election of his Senate seat.
Is looks like Newt always seems to always come in fourth.
When Paul is your main rival the race is def over (it was over before Xmas but anyway).
Just stay safe Mittens!
It's a good day to be a Rombot. Newt/Perry! Newt/Perry! Seriously my hat is off to Rick Perry. How anyone that simple could dress them self and get out the door everyday is incredible.
Things aren't looking good for Jon Huntsman. His vote in places like Concord needs to be higher if he wants a decent showing tonight.
I remember 16 years ago, refreshing the computer every 8 seconds or so, at my brothers apartment, watching Pat Buchanan rock the political world with a shocking victory in New Hampshire.
They'll be calling this as soon as the polls close.
So will Romney get to 40%? What do you guys think so far?
Florida Conservative Says:
January 10th, 2012 at 6:48 pm
Fox is showing Romney at 36% with 6% reporting. Paul 25, Huntsman 15.
You must have had dial-up in 1996. Impressive that you were able to refresh every 8 seconds.
CNN is still trying to find a way to spin this as some kind of disappointment for Romney because he isn't dominating independents.
I'm confused. If Republicans supposedly don't like Romney but he wins them by a huge margin, what is the next media meme?
Paul will take second. He has big #'s in Huntsman's base area.
DO some candidates Campaign managers i wonder have there candidates reassess there candidates campaigns tonight?
i love how the tv pundits constantly remind me as a viewer that Ron Paul will not get the nomination...even as he is pulling in 25% of the NH vote and leading in numerous counties.
"Paul will take second. He has big #’s in Huntsman’s base area."
I hate them. Vile, evil creatures.
Huntsman is the only one even thinking about dropping out. He has nowhere to go after coming a distant 3rd today.
Yes, Paul is going to beat Huntsman... by a lot.
Roemer trails Perry 0.4% to 0.7%
"i love how the tv pundits constantly remind me as a viewer that Ron Paul will not get the nomination"
Because he won't. Period. And this party will be far better off the day he drops out of the race and leaves Presidential politics for good.
My brother did have dial up in 1996. And every 8 seconds might be an exaggeration, but it was frequent.
Romney has officially carried Manchester 37-25 for Ron Paul.
Go Paul go! Beat Huntsman like a drum.
This is the crap that makes people hate politics:
Mitt Romney running ad in South Carolina falsely accusing Newt Gingrich of being pro abortion.
Fox calls it. Mitt wins.
He needed to do better than that in Manchester to break 40 IMO.
Well Newt is running an ad in Florida that falsely says that he is pro-capitalism.
Karger leads Bachmann by 17 votes, and Cain by 26.
Not so sure that it's going to be a distant 3rd. I think it'll tighten. One thing we saw in Iowa: in early results Paul was basically even with Romney and Santorum but he faded as results trickled in and then gained a little back late in the night. I wouldn't be surprised to see the same thing happen here.
No they haven't. None of the networks have called it yet.
So far Santorum is finishing behind Gingrich and Huntsman and Perry isn't even on the map. I think Santorum's rise and fall may only span two weeks.
Is there a live Internet video feed anywhere showing results as they come in?
#22 That might be how the entire night plays out: Mitt in the high 30's, Paul in the mid 20's. A good showing for both of them if it is.
#14 Yes, everyone reminds how Paul won't win. And yes, we Mitt supporters have to listen to them say Mitt probably win even tho everybody hates him and nobody will vote for him.
Romney 7832 36%
Paul 5474 25%
Huntsman 3504 16%
Gingrich 2401 11%
Santorum 2294 10%
Perry 162 1%
10% of Precints in
Brilliant strategy by Santorum. He does well in Iowa and then spends a week running around New Hampshire...to come in 5th.
Looks like Huntsman is sure to come in 3rd.
The media will say anything less than a 20% win and Mitt really blew it.
In reality, the real story is this: Who Lost New Hampshire.
None of them top three finishers.
How is Newt hanging on to his national numbers?
Not a top three finisher in Iowa,
Not a top three finisher in NH
Why is he #2/3 nationally?
And Fox news has called it for Romney.
...and I'm Megyn Kelly. Mitt Romney won - I'm going home. I put in enough time in Iowa - later.
Looks like Romney is going to pull 35%. Paul is doing really, really well.
#5 - I remember standing in a ball room in Manchester, NH singing and dancing and watching TV as Pat Buchanan rocked the US political world that very same night.
CNN just calls it for Romney
Fingers crossed that Paul's support level drops. 25% voting for that nut is embarrassing to this party.
My predictions are crap.
Romney and Rum are running way behind where I had them, and Paul way ahead.
CNN calls it for Romney too.
29 - I agree that is likely. My opinion is Paul does better with students, etc. who vote early while Romney does better with those who vote after work. Just a guess.
Why are my comments not showing up at the end but towards the beginning of this thread?
It would be nice to see Santorum get a clue and drop out. Probably won't happen though.
Talk radio - which has dumped him today to the curb.
Noot is going to drop to 10% nationally very soon.
It is not their job to constantly bash one candidate because they do not agree with him. why not report the results instead of telling every voter not to vote for him because he is "unelectable"?
The last one was the first to show up at the end.
It is not their job to constantly bash one candidate because they do not agree with him. why not report the results instead of telling every voter not to vote for him because he is “unelectable”?
11% of the vote and they have declared Mitt the winner. Paul the 2nd. Huntsman 3rd.
Well, two Mormons and a libertarian go to SC with wind at their back.
go ron!...paul running stronger than expected...
AP projected Romney the winner!
Romney was just projected the winner of New Hampshire.
Huntsman making a move at 17.2%
Well, that would be good for Mitt. If Paul fades a bit, Romney can inch up towards that magic "15 percent" number some have been saying he needs to have a good night.
Pundit logic...don't ask me.
Fortunately for Romney, Huntsman will be effectively knocked out (who pulls votes from the left) and Gingrich and Santorum will split the conservative vote on the right. Romney will will SC, unless Gingrich & Santorum voters can get behind one candidate.
Mitt will fire his message masseuses to celebrate. They really failed him. And it's fun.
I was hoping Huntsman would do better. I suspect he may drop out with a 3rd place finish, especially if he ends up trailing Paul by a significant amount.
CNN NH exit polls:
Poor Newt can't get out of fourth place. LOL
The race is over folks. Time to pull back on the negative rhetoric. Romney's our nominee and Obama's already running against him.
My standard for a Romney "win" is not a set percent, but his performance relative to other candidates: can he beat the next two combined? He's close to that right now, but needs to improve by a couple points.
Are we seriously going to discuss the battle for fourth place in New Hampshire? Pathetic!
Paul underperformed exit polls in Iowa.
Although Mitt already was projected as the winner, he is still pulling ahead. He's 3000 votes ahead of second place Paul and counting.
45% of Republicans for Romney in CNN poll. Hard to argue against that.
Among Repubs - CNN Exit polls
Wow. Romney got a huge 45% portion of the Republican vote. Nobody else over 15%.
36% is basically a "good" win, but not a great win. I'd like to see Romney pushing 40% to end the night.
Fox News Live online just called it for Romney. In fact, they are calling the whole thing in this order:
1. Romney 35 - 36%
2. Paul 23 - 24%
3. Huntsman 17 - 18%
4. Gingrich 10 - 11%
5. Santorum 9 - 10%
6. Perry less than 1%
roemer vs perry now becomes the focus.....
Lol at Huntsman.
#75 Only 11% of the votes in according to my radio. Maybe Mitt can bump it up a bit when the final is known.
If Roemer beats Perry in New Hampshire, do they finally invite him to the debates? My guess is probably not.
I am shocked Bachmann and Cain actually received votes. What's up with that?
Romney won Concord w/ 100% reporting. Damn! Good news for Team Romney.
Perry's star is shining bright...deep in the heart of Texas.
All the drama is between Newt and Santorum ...who has 4th?
Protest votes perhaps?
Huntsman is climbing a bit; he's at 18% now.
I was hoping Gingrich would get below 10%. Wah!
Huntsman will drop put tomorrow. The big question is whether Newt or Santorum get to the 10% threshold for delegates.
"It is not their job to constantly bash one candidate because they do not agree with him."
Considering Ron Paul is an isolationist/non-interventionist/pacifist/anti-war kook, and has routinely criticized big banks and big business....I'd say many in the MSM agree more with Paul than they do most Republicans.
But it is there job to report FACTS. And to any observer, even an objective one, it is very clear that Ron Paul will not win the Republican nomination, will not win the Presidency, and generates a significant amount of his support from those who are probably going to vote for Obama no matter WHO wins when the general election rolls around.
81, Perry voters who were confused at how to spell Perry.
Huntsman up to 18.3%
#89: I'm hoping, hoping, hoping they do not!
75 - 36% is not a good win. It shows that people moved against Romney in the last few days.
They are polling people on the acceptance speech? Really?
Just watch the southeastern towns coming in in Rockingham County.
Romney is going to be pushing 40-45% in those towns.
He's at 41% in Portsmouth, despite Paul and Huntsman each getting 20%. In the smaller towns, Romney will be picking up Huntsman voters.
I love how the NYT results page has a countdown clock to the next update.
Where's katcheon he said that Huntsman was going to run second for sure? Hope he didn't lose his house!
Does Huntsman endorse? I say Romney but not for months.
#95 Fiddlesticks. Anybody with a brain knows he was going to drop a bit--especially considering all the last minute attacks.
I really don't see why anyone would vote for Newt at this point. What is attractive about him?
Huntsman may drop out tonight.
Even better, the NYT auto-updates do you don't have to refresh.
IF NEWT / perry DO BAD tonight do they keep going?
Oh yes, almost forgot. Two cheers to Romney for making history with wins in Iowa and New Hampshire!
I didn't expect Paul to do this well. Hadn't he recently polled in the upper teens?
LOL ... huntsman sitting in front of a CNN camera watching results. "Breaking News!"
What a tool!
Ron Paul! Let's cut that spending once and for all.
At the very least, Huntsman is one sharp-dressed man.
Romney '12 is only beating Romney '08 by 3, and trailing McCain '08 by 2.
Turnout seems to be running behind '08, when the Democrats hogged the spotlight, and Republicans were considered down on enthusiasm.
Most people vote for Newt just to stick it to Jax, exit polls are showing.
Perry is not actively contesting this. Newt will go on until at least SC. Huntsman may drop out within the next couple days. Santorum will go on.
Huntsman is holding out. Fox called 2nd for Paul, but on CNN they seem to be respecting Huntsman's desire to hold out and see how the votes come in.
January 8th, 2012 at 7:18 pm
This will be close - just need Rick to take over Newt!
Belknap County doesn't have anything reporting in yet.
CNN has a camera in Huntsman's hotel suite. The Governor seems to be feeling alright. The Huntsman campaign seems to be indicating that he won't drop out of the race anytime soon.
Speaking of Huntsman, how can he possibly think he stands a chance in South Carolina?
CNN says Huntsman Campaign Manager Weaver says talk of them dropping out tonight is "bullshit."
100 - he went down in poll numbers (from 43 to 37), showing that for every undecided he picked up, he lost even more people. If he gets 35% as is the current, number, that is a really poor closing argument and shows a real lack of enthusiasm...
CNN is now claiming that team Huntsman thinks they'll do well in Florida because his wife is from the state. Pathetic.
36% is not a good win?
The indies flooded the place. Romney won 40% of Republicans. Those are they whom we should care about anyway.
What about 10% for Noot? What about 9% for Santorum? Are those respectable losses?
If the super bowl results were 35 to 10, would you say that was a respectable win?
My predictions 2 days ago.
DO I DARE SAY / worry this thing could be over before super Tuesday march 6th?
OMGoodness, my local conservative talk show host Roger is in NH right now, interview this Rick Tyler person, Newt's 28th minute video guy. Roger, who's had NO love for Mitt all year is calling Rick Tyler "Michael Moore" telling half the story.
The video does NOT tell the good side of Bain: Stables, Dominos, etc. etc.
Roger now calling the video OWS!!!! Rick Tyler cannot hold is own with Roger. Rick sounds like an idiot. What is it about Ricks these days????
Piggybacking on what I said, McCain already endorsed Romney, and Lindsey Graham has virtually every incentive to follow suit. Where the heck can Huntsman pick up enough votes, aside from the coastal areas?
Pure, unadulterated delusional ego mongering.
CNN just said they talked to huntsman, and he's staying in until at least florida.... RON PAUL 2012!
"Most people vote for Newt just to stick it to Jax, exit polls are showing."
Bachmann herself hailed from Iowa. Look how well that turned out...
come on jon..here is your chance to concede to Paul
Perry may not be contesting it but it gets increasingly difficult to justify his campaign after his dismal finish in Iowa and now NH.
Mitt ha gone from "weak front runner" to possibly the first non-incumbent republican to win all 50 states?!
Unlike Gore in 2000 against 7 or 8 opponents!
Wonder how close J-Hunt is to running out of cash? Any chance he gets any new donations from this showing? Even if SC is an open primary, there were reports today on big ad buys there from the Gingrich and Santorum PACs.
Most pundits are claiming that that the over-under is 36%. If Romney is in that neighborhhod, it is a success. The more urban areas, with larger voter populations are reporting late. maybe Romney will get to 36%
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What a freaking tool! See CNN talking about Romney and run over to the reporter to interrupt them. What a classless move. He had CNN on right in front of him and new Sununu was speaking.
Typical of Huntsman. He is a joke!
Huntsman is arguing electability, saying that Romney is hurting his own electability with the "fire people" thing.
Sorry Governor, but that dog won't hunt down in the South.
Looking at the preliminary results, I'd have to conclude that having a suck@ss field depresses turnout.
Huntsman says that he is going to South Carolina and Florida.
Who is going to stay in the race after today? Huntsman doesn't have another favorable state though he might think Florida. Gingrich has failed big in the first 2 states. Perry has failed big in the first 2 states. Santorum got 2nd in Iowa, but failed big in New Hampshire. Paul can claim a bronze and silver so we know he's going to stay in, but who else?
Little Jonny will get 5% in SC and not much more in Florida.
I hope he & Perry stay in so we can laugh at them more!
I recently read an article that said Huntsman's dad would kick in a lot more money to their superPAC, if only Jon Jr. would. However, he has a strong desire to "become his own man", so he doesn't want to do that.
LOL @ Kavon's rational exuberance.
Indeed. The idea that Jon Huntsman can do anything with a 3rd place finish, nearly 20 points behind Romney, is comical. Not even worth acknowledgment.
Well, it's cute.
120 - 45% of Republicans
"Most pundits are claiming that that the over-under is 36%. If Romney is in that neighborhhod, it is a success."
McCain hit 37 against real competition.
cnn has latest updates
Governor Sununu is ripping Huntsman apart. The New Hampshire Governor is a great attack dog. He and Christie are Romney's biggest attack dogs.
I still think the VP will be either Christie, Ryan, or Thune.
@111 - LOL ... probably true
Roger laughing @ Rick Tyler now. Roger has been blasting the heck out Newt all day. He had an interview with Santorum today and Roger declared Rummy a "big government social conservative who touted LBJ" in the interview. According to Roger, Rummy is not fit for POTUS.
This thing is going to start turning for Mitt; people are FINALLY coming to the realization that those of us who've supported Mitt all along have always known: Whatever problems there are w/Mitt, there is no one else. Period.
HUNTSMAN says (tonight's still early) right now they ''plan'' to go to SC
Can we have an update on the prediction standings? I'm vying for top 15!
Sununu laying the wood to Huntsman. What a classless move to cut Sununu off.
I would like that!
#144: I think Huntsman's strategy is to stay in until the electorate realizes one by one the other non-Mitts are not viable, and he becomes the anti-Mitt. There's a tiny chance it could work.
you actually believe that Ron Paul supporters will vote for Obama? you don't know anything about what motivates these people. the anti-war ones hate obama because he has done nothing but expand US intervention into foreign conflicts. the civil libertarians hate obama because of patriot act, "net-neutrality", gun control, and a million other issues. the economic ones think obama is a total failure with bailouts and stimulus. the hard money ones want nothing to do with the dems (unless you mean andrew jackson who abolished an earlier version of the FED). the drug legalization ones hate obama because he has cracked down on states that want to do their own thing. ron paul supporters think obama is the devil.
are you REALLY being honest in your rhetoric or are you just throwing bombs...?
McCain got 40% among indys. Indys broke for Huntsman and Paul this time because they are far-left on war.
139 - He'll go to the debates but he won't spend any money there. He is finished.
CNN projects Huntsman in 3rd
Will we ever break 500 on this post?
Romney pacing 1600 less than he received in '08.
Was there a hurricane in New Hampshire today? Maybe a major earthquake? Alien invasion?
CNN finally called Ron Paul 2nd and Huntsman 3rd.
Fox news is really playing this off as a huge win for Romney....expect Mitt to really climb in the next couple of days in the tracking polls.
My VP3 list:
Not necessarily in order.
CNN just projected that Paul comes in second and Huntsman in 3rd.
CNN is now declaring that Paul will be 2nd and Huntsman will be in 3rd.
I recently read an article that said Huntsman’s dad would kick in a lot more money to their superPAC, if only Jon Jr. would. However, he has a strong desire to “become his own man”, so he doesn’t want to do that.
My initial perception of Huntsman when he first ran for Gov here in Utah was that he was a little spoiled boy riding in on daddy's money and standing in the community. I voted for his opponent. But Huntsman won, and turned out to be a pretty kick*** governor, and I've appreciated him ever since. But he's definitely trying to avoid the perception that his dad's buying him votes.
Ann Romney speaking
Ann Romney is on stage to introduce the Governor.
I like Huntsman, and I've tried to maintain hope that he might catch fire, as MWS can attest, but I really don't see how he has any viability this late in the game. Furthermore, although I've had to grit my teeth and look past his incessant negative campaigning, his new Bain/firing rhetoric has acted as the last straw for me.
Huntsman says he's going on to South Carolina. LOL.
147. Better competition? Only 3 guys got double digits in New Hampshire in 2008. Mitt is going to improve upon his numbers from 2008.
I hate live polling of a speach! It is just stupid....
There was a media character assassination - that could be it, hm?
157. The problem is...that's everyone else's strategy too.
Even if Huntsman wants to go on, South Carolina is a poor choice. He should hop-scotch down to Florida and make his stand here.
There's only 20% of the vote is in. It's still too early to know the final vote numbers.
MWS, I told myself that tonight I wouldn't LOL at you, but you're really asking for it. So LOL at you and Huntsman.
Romney starting to climb again. Up to 35.8%
163 - Pacing? What the hell does that even mean? The votes aren't reported in a normally distributed way.
Sure, you're probably right, but with Romney now the most preferred option among GOP voters (as the polls today showed) and consistently sporting better favorability numbers than Huntsman, it would take a TON for a plurality of the party to swing toward J-Hunt.
177. Amen, amen, amen!!!!!
Anyone know what Ann Romney said would be her pet project as first lady in 2007?
157. Metro, I think that's everyone's strategy, but there's a limit to how much they're individually willing to burn through their personal funds to do so, differences in self-funding possibilities notwithstanding.
Ann Romney is gonna make such a great First Lady.
Here's the Governor and winner of the 2012 New Hampshire primary.
This is the best order of finish imaginable. Romney couldnt have wished for a better order. Newt and Santorum are way down! paul and Hunst, neither of whom can wage long term viable war, are in 2nd and 3rd.
CNN is dialing the speeches with SC residents.
Tonight we made history!
Analyst Jones for NYT: interesting that Romney got as many votes fr strong conservs, evangelicals as Santorum. NH #exits #fitn
Analyst Jones for NYT: interesting that Romney got as many votes fr strong conservs, evangelicals as Santorum. NH #exits #fitn
Matt MWS, we know you're disppointed in your guy's poor showing, and none of us could have really predicted that he would be such a distand 3rd behind Romney and Paul, so I know where you are coming from.
The live voting of an acceptance speech is silly. Is he going to say something Republicans don't like?
The Democrats in '08 kicked our @ss in Primary turnout. So far, we're running behind our '08 turnout, with no competition from the Democrats.
It looks like it will be up to a technocratic, one term, self described "moderate" governor from Massachusetts to rally the troops this Fall.
Santy gaining on Newt.
177 - He doesn't have money to compete in the media intensive state of Florida.
He's winning, so he's obviously the best to lead the party, no?
Only non-incumbent to win both Iowa and New Hampshire! Now that is a huge accomplishment. Romney doing things that have never been done before.
If Huntsman can't get over 15% in New Hampshire (where he lived the last 6 months), he isn't going to win anywhere.
January 10th, 2012 at 7:27 pm
I am pulling for Santy to beat Newt.
Maybe now we'll (rightfully) see more stories about the actual magnitude of Mitt winning the first two states.
Great line by Mitt
There's a very loud woman in the audience who seems to want to give her own commentary to the Governor's speech. She needs a bottle of shut the hell up.
188 - Exactly right
How rowdy and angry will Newt be when he makes his concession speech?
sorry this was meant for M Kilburn...
you actually believe that Ron Paul supporters will vote for Obama? you don’t know anything about what motivates these people. the anti-war ones hate obama because he has done nothing but expand US intervention into foreign conflicts. the civil libertarians hate obama because of patriot act, “net-neutrality”, gun control, and a million other issues. the economic ones think obama is a total failure with bailouts and stimulus. the hard money ones want nothing to do with the dems (unless you mean andrew jackson who abolished an earlier version of the FED). the drug legalization ones hate obama because he has cracked down on states that want to do their own thing. ron paul supporters think obama is the devil.
are you REALLY being honest in your rhetoric or are you just throwing bombs…?
195 - No we aren't
This is why the pundits who said that a Romney win was "baked into the cake" were idiots. The pundits may have become jaded to the results because they live with it, but here Mitt is dominating tonight's coverage with an unquestionably strong win. His "strong" opponents for S. Carolina are barely rating double digits.
You can't bake a positive news cycle into the cake. He's getting it right now.
Santy less than 100 behind Newt....
Mitt's got some great lines
This is one of Romney's better speeches.
Can we assume that the consultants will take that turnout as a suggestion Mitt should pick an especially base-friendly running mate?
Will he listen to them, or will he go with someone who might re-draw the electoral map (Christie, for example) and challenge the conventional political wisdom?
Yes. McCain beat Romney, Huckabee, Paul, and Guiliani.
Romney is beating Paul, Huntsman, Santorum, and Perry.
It's not even close. Paul, J-Hunt, Santorum and Perry don't hold a candle to Romney, Huckabee, Paul, and Guiliani.
139. You forgot the Dean scream.
Mitt talking about the class warfare. GO MITT!!!
Yes, I think Mitt's consultants will tell him to pick someone who can rally the base.
Huh...Mitt slapping down the midgets on their Bain attacks.
Mitt calls some opponents "desperate."
Turnout is not lower than four years ago. What are you talking about?
I think it's pretty clear Obama gets a second term if trends continue.
Given that I hope Romney's the nominee so we can start over fresh and not have him run again in 2016.
Nice. Shot right across the bow of Newt and Perry.
The South Carolina crowd didn't like the talk about putting free enterprise on trial.
Romney's in tears...
Mitt can get away with giving a long speech because the results were decided so quickly.
Matt "MWS" Says:
It’s not even close. Paul, J-Hunt, Santorum and Perry don’t hold a candle to Romney, Huckabee, Paul, and Guiliani.
true, but smart Republican knew better than take on Romney.
So Paul is the only one who over performed
In Iowa, the same thing happened: lots of smaller precincts come in early and make projected turnout look lower than it will be. I have no idea if turnout will be up or down but we're not going to have a very clear idea until we're closer to 50% of precincts in.
As someone who hasn't endorsed Mitt outright but has still expressed cautious support for him, I can't feel happier about the way his campaign has evolved in the last couple weeks.
The more he adopts a positive, optimistic message centered on growth, opportunity, and free enterprise, the more comfortable I get.
"Matt MWS, we know you’re disppointed in your guy’s poor showing, and none of us could have really predicted that he would be such a distand 3rd behind Romney and Paul, so I know where you are coming from."
Are you kidding? Huntsman is running way ahead of my prediction. I figured he'll collapse after his 1.6% showing in Iowa.
Uh-oh, Huntsman back under 17%
Mitt is on fire! Epic speech.
econ grad stud Says:
January 10th, 2012 at 7:32 pm
I think it’s pretty clear Obama gets a second term if trends continue
I can see why your still in school and not working..... Romney will squash Obama
"The live voting of an acceptance speech is silly. Is he going to say something Republicans don’t like?"
Yeah, every time he mentions Obama that line takes a huge hit.
Huntsman camp just released the following: "Choi shek um pah ching wow poi nah song loo pow tee ling."
Ghosts of Eugene McCarthy?
The military talk will play well in South Carolina.
I don't see any crying.
And it was Ed Muskie who got all blubbery in NH.
Talking like THE NOMINEE! This sends a message to a lot of people.
#234 I'm working for the Army. I may be deployed to the sandbox as a civilian in a few months. My nickname is over 5 years old.
Where do you see crying?
Wow, Santorum & Newt neck and neck....
Mitt's eyes were shiny. No tears, no choking up, nothing.
I saw tears in his eyes...not "crying" in a classic way....
If he did cry, it sure helped Hillary in NH. I think it would help Mitt, too, as it would humanize him.
Good speech by Mitt right now.
Paul got 1/4 the vote even though he is "fringe"...even though all the important people have tried to convince voters he is unelectable...even though he is polling dead-even with obama right now...even though he is dangerous...
imagine how well he would do if the establishment didn't try everything conceivable to convince voters that he will never be president.
Romney now running 8000 votes behind his '08 losing effort.
He better hope MEM's right.
There was no crying.
Man, Romney can fire up a crowd, there is no doubt about that.
Mitt polling great with the South Carolina watchers on CNN.
This ought to finally put to bed the notion that Romney won't be tough enough on Obama.
This speech is the model for Talahasse. Dont change a thing Mitt
Better speech tonight by Mitt...he went ahead with the teleprompters.
I don't think a man can get away with that nearly as much. Instead, he should punch someone to show passion. I nominated Newt Gingrich.
Very good speech by Romney!!!
I knew you'd correct me if I was wrong. Thanks.
Romney should have put one of his more photogenic sons behind him.
As I expected, Romney's only picked up a few points in '08 Romney counties but a lot of points in McCain counties. I really expect this margin to widen a bit.
I wonder why Paul has such a large lead in Alexandria? No college there. And it's not the town the Free State Project people moved to.
Perhaps one of Mitt best speeches and best moments.
Exciting start to casting out Obama.
Not even 50% prec reporting. Who cares ????
econ grad stud Says:
January 10th, 2012 at 7:32 pm
I think it’s pretty clear Obama gets a second term if trends continue.
Given that I hope Romney’s the nominee so we can start over fresh and not have him run again in 2016.
I think it’s pretty clear Obama gets a second term if trends continue.
Given that I hope Romney’s the nominee so we can start over fresh and not have him run again in 2016.
Either way, Romney will not run again in 2016. Do you subscribe to the Donna Brazil news letter?
Maybe people didn't turn out because his win was a foregone conclusion anyway.
LOL! Maybe they can make punching an Occupy fool part of his stump speech!
Santorum just 68 votes behind Grinch
With John McCain (now on Fox) on Romney's side I wouldn't be very surprised to see Senator Graham hop on the Romney bandwagon soon. Better to get in now rather than after South Carolina.
Romney winning New Hampshire by one point more than Huck won Iowa.
Just keeping things in perspective, less the lemonade flow too freely tonight.
21 votes separating Grinch and Santy now. Exciting dynamic
Do I dare say this cold be OVER before Super Tuesday March 6th ?
I'd be quite surprised if DeMint doesn't come out for Romney prior to the vote in SC
Do I dare say this could be OVER before Super Tuesday March 6th ?
The largest precincts have not delivered results yet...
Ron Paul doing good likely means he doesn't bolt for a 3rd party run. He'll want to stay kosher with Republicans so that his people get to be at the convention.
Romney Rubio or Romney Jindal
265 - Exactly right ... close races always have larger turnouts. MWS is just being his normal petulant self.
Ron Paul on CNN is trying to say it's a two man race between him and Romney. The Massachusetts Governor can only hope.
Apparently Newt is planning to Rally with Clyburn....interesting strategy
He's +11 in Coos, +13 in Grafton, +5 in Carroll, +9 in Sullivan, +5 in Merrimack, +9 in Stafford, +5 in Cheshire, +2 in Hillsborough, and +2 in Rockingham. Only the last 2 were Romney counties in '08. Granted, most of the population is in those counties, but still I think he'll add a point or two to the gap between Paul.
Gingrich and Santorum neck and neck. Only 21 votes separate them at 25% of the votes so far.
Wow, Santorum DOMINATES Roxbury w/ 57%, Paul 16%, Romney 11%. Wonder what's up with that.
Romney now running more than 14,000 votes behind his '08 total.
To me, the only really interesting contest tonight is Romney '08 vs. Romney '12.
271 - It was over a week ago.
CNN says that half, HALF!, the voters today were independents and Romney still edged Paul with them will taking Republicans with 45%.
There won't be any independents in SC to jump in for Paul and Huntsman, so SC might turn out to be a better win for Romney than NH...
Nice speech. Mitt really made the TelePrompTer come alive for a change.
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOo!!! Back to back wins. Fantastic speech. The new POTUS is taking it to that deadbeat we have now!!!
Ha Ha: McCain saying: "Newt's and Santorum's poor showing is certainly surprising to me."
Political language is just great sometimes.
Yeah, maybe Lindsey Graham joins in to help Mitt in SC. That will drive the Teavangelicals crazy--Mitt getting help from the Establishment. DeMint endorsed Mitt last time; I don't if he has the cojones this time.
283 - You are so absurd. Get over yourself already.
We are waiting for about 100,000 votes between Hillsborough and Rockingham counties. These are the counties where Romney will get his margin.
The other counties (save Merrimack) are small. Paul will pick up many towns there.
However, Romney will get the votes where they matter. And these places have yet to report over 100,000 expected votes.
I don't see any problems with introducing fighting to presidential campaigns. Taiwan has a fist-fight almost daily in their Parliament and they have a vibrant, healthy democracy.
"MWS is just being his normal petulant self."
I'm pretty sure you learned that word from me.
I had to pull over so I could clap, whistle, and stomp my feet. A real American in the White House. Not a socialist bone in his body.
Hey MWS, Mitt's win was a foregone conclusion. People didn't feel the need to turn out.
Did you hear him woodshed Gingrich, Perry and Huntsman all in one sentence? He's only just beginning to unleash. The dude is DISciplined.
South Carolina does allow independents to vote in the GOP primary. That's one of the reasons they made a big deal of McCain's win in Florida last time; it was the first closed primary of the race.
292 - You would be arrogant enough to believe that.
I can already hear that huge economic engine rumbling...preparing to roar to life as soon as the last bit of deadwood is swept out of the White House. Love it.
John King just said "I'm making a projection that Romney's margin will actually go up".
Where do you think Romney and Paul will end up when all is said and done? 38 to 23?
MWS: You're kind of a glass-half-empty guy, aren't you.
Look at it this way: Romney's now winning with more than twice the % margin that McCain beat him in '08.
Londonderry just came in HUGE for Mitt. 46%.
Mitt is going to get more than 35% statewide. Bank on it.
LMAO! Gotta love Brit Hume
"Ron Paul has about as much chance as being nominated as RuPaul does!"
Sounds about right, although Paul may finish below 23.
301 - He doesn't "like" Romney ... for no apparent reason.
CNN is showing that most of the Southeastern section of New Hampshire hasn't come in yet and they expect Romney's margin to creep up. 37%-38% is probably not an unreasonable number to predict as Romney's final percentage.
If McCain could win South Carolina, I don't see how Romney can't.
and luckily for the US..newt and santorum have the same 0 chance
Congratulations to Mitt. Its a proud day for the asparagus family! We are very excited here.
There are no positive ads that Newt can make. His only hope he has is finding something to blow up the whole field and hope he is the last one standing. He is the most egomaniacal politician of his generation. Perhaps of the last century. Anything goes if he can get ahead.
#299: Liz: Pent up capital revving up for....tah...dah...capitalism. I know a bunch of people sitting on cash not knowing where to put it. Now would be a could time to figure that one out. Catch a wave....and you're sittin' on top of the world.
Late to the game here, so I haven't read any of the comments. All I see is 307, which indicates that people are questioning whether Romney can win South Carolina.
This is absurd. Of COURSE Romney can win South Carolina. He probably will win South Carolina. At some point, we'll all learn just how little most Americans care about what religion anyone is.
Any results from Keene yet? I really liked the town when I visited it. I ask more out of curiosity than anything else.
"Hey MWS, Mitt’s win was a foregone conclusion. People didn’t feel the need to turn out."
Turnout in Iowa was only up 2.5% from '08, and it can't get much closer than that.
307 McCain 33% + Romney 15% = 48%. If Romney can peel off 80% of the McCain voters, its over.
It was just so beautiful to hear all those values poured out all over the Airways.....American exceptionalism....loyalty to international friends, the Judeo Christian work ethic......ONE NATION UNDER GOD....sob...gasp.
307. McCain won the large military vote there. I don't think Romney is as tight with that demographic.
Who do we want to come in 4th? Gingrich, or Santorum? Pick one and explain!
He doesn’t “like” Romney … for no apparent reason.
Romney himself is apparent -- and reason enough.
Nobody on this thread has really questioned that, but John King just did. He kept talking about the evangelical and Tea Party contingencies in the Palmetto State.
"You’re kind of a glass-half-empty guy, aren’t you."
Gotta go. Will check back.
314 - Because it was a close race ... moron.
Brit Hume also highlighted that Newt is attacking Romney from the left and is a strategy that is not going to work. Good to hear him say that on Fox.
The media does a pretty good hit-job, don't you think?
#313: Jonathan, Keene is the town the Free State Project moved to. It will a Paul stronghold.
If Obama were smart he would set up some more goodies for the unemployed in order to take care of himself next year. Maybe some month long trips to Hawaii on a private jet....he won't want the change in lifestyle to be too abrupt for his family.
317 - You are a moron if that is what you think.
I wish I could see town-by-town results for '08 but no site seems to have them. We'd have a much better idea if turnout was actually down.
Santorum 4th to deflate Gingrich further!
Sure, I thought about that, but if Graham endorses McCain and McCain campaigns in military areas with Romney, I'm sure it will help. The only other candidate who really does well with military voters is Paul.
Thanks, much abliged.
GOOOODDDDD BLLLESSSSS AMMMMERIIICA.....LAAAAND, THAT I LOOOOOOOOOOOVE!!!!!
Who do we want to come in 4th? Gingrich, or Santorum?
Irrelevant. Neither will win the nomination. And Gingrich should have an advantage in SC and FL, which both could contest. If not, Santo will run out of money first.
I would like Santorum to finish in 4th
Because I see Gingrich as a bigger threat to Romney in SC and he would be limping in with a 4th in Iowa and 5th in New Hampshire.
Santorum. Less overlap with Romney than Newt for voters. Very little money. His bump from Iowa is now gone but he arguably has more momentum still than Newt. He's not a petulant d**k like Newt and isn't as liable to damage Romney for the general.
Keene is my hometown, where my family is.
Paul is going to do well there, you are right.
LOL ... Fox News trying to say that Romney isn't meeting his 2008 numbers and failing.
Well here we go:
Rank | Name | Total % Off
1) Riccardo 5.3%
2) T.C. Robinson 7.9%
3) Aaron 9.1%
4) Ryan60657 9.3%
5) Michael 9.5%
6) Heath 9.7%
7) The "King" has no rings 10.3%
8) Michael 10.3%
9) JohnnyG 10.7%
10) Nick Bradley 11.1%
11) John 11.7%
12) smack1968 11.9%
13) GetReal 11.9%
14) jaaron 12.5%
15) Shane 12.7%
16) Boomer 12.9%
17) Simon 13.3%
18) econ grad stud 13.3%
19) Josiah Schmidt 13.3%
20) TC 25 13.7%
21) Alex Knepper 13.9%
22) John Galt 14.1%
23) aj rabin 14.3%
24) mushroom 14.5%
25) Still Hurting 14.5%
26) WasAlso 14.5%
27) Noelle 14.5%
28) Simon 14.7%
29) Dskinner 14.7%
30) chickentrooper 14.9%
31) Andy Mighty 14.9%
32) Jarvis 15.1%
33) Johnathan 15.3%
34) Tim 15.3%
35) Huckarubio 15.3%
36) Anybody & Kitchen sink but Romney 15.5%
37) Alaska Jake 15.9%
38) jerald 15.9%
39) rnst_p 15.9%
40) jeremy 16.1%
41) Primus 16.3%
42) Dr J 16.3%
43) Doug NYC GOP 16.5%
44) Dave 16.7%
45) Matthew E. Miller 16.9%
46) corep 17.1%
47) Brett H. 17.1%
48) swint 17.2%
49) Florida Conservative 17.3%
50) Matthew Kilburn 17.3%
51) Dave Gaultier 17.3%
52) Massachusetts Conservative 17.3%
53) Abe 17.3%
54) RA 17.5%
55) no newt 17.5%
56) aspire 17.5%
57) Andrew Ryan 17.9%
58) Jeff Fuller 17.9%
59) Ahowell 17.9%
60) asparagus 17.9%
61) Jeff Y 18.1%
62) Jack Bauer's Dad 18.3%
63) Chris 18.9%
64) Freedom for William Wallace 19.1%
65) RegularJoe 19.3%
66) Paul8148 20.1%
67) Freddy Ardanza 20.1%
68) Anybody but NEWT 20.3%
69) Sean 20.5%
70) GotAStewGoin 20.5%
71) Omega 20.7%
72) Teledude 20.7%
73) Thunder 20.7%
74) Adam Graham 22.1%
75) Sean P 22.3%
76) Jrcutler 22.3%
77) davidg 22.3%
78) Bloodshy 22.9%
79) Joe C 23.1%
80) G Buttersnaps 23.5%
81) Matt Y 23.9%
82) Jman 25.9%
83) Hudson Valley Rep 26.9%
84) OSUPhantom 30.3%
85) Matt "MWS" 30.5%
86) obamaisastatist 30.9%
87) K.J 31.3%
88) Jaxemer11 32.3%
89) MarqueG 33.7%
90) Lux Veritas 35.7%
He only freaked me out for a moment with that "I Believe" chant. But he morphed it into something much more acceptable and went on to max out the inspiration meter. Where was Frank Luntz on that speech?
Jax: But he's NOT getting ahead. He's on auto self-destruct. Except he will be on every liberal talk show from now until the Second Coming, bashing Mitt. He might make some money, but he will NOT go down in the history books as a great American hero.
It's classic Newt: Brilliance followed by inevitable personal implosion. Very sick man.
Fox says who is failing?
Has the Republican party ever had a nominee that did not win either Iowa or New Hampshire?
Keene is a decent sized college town with a lot of low-income voters.
Paul will come in 1st, with Mitt probably second. Huntsman will do well also.
"LOL … Fox News trying to say that Romney isn’t meeting his 2008 numbers and failing."
Fox has been pretty favorable tonight....
Foxnews is a TOTAL FREAKING JOKE!!! They are trying to spin against Romney any way they can.
Time for Murdoch to be recycled into something more conservative.
Lol! Rick Perry at .8%.
343 - Nope.
Fox is probably hoping for some crony deal with Obama just turn it off. I have. Months ago.
I WANT GINGRICH TO DROP OUT AND FOCUS HIS REMARKABLE RHETORICAL SKILLS ON SKEWERING OUR CURRENT POTUS and not trying to dismantle the rest of the GOP.
(sorry about the CAPS lock...too lazy to go back and retype it)
Obama is wearing diapers. Little ol' Alice in Wonderland parties will be his only escape from this reality.
I think i going romney because I think he is the only one that has the ''check book'' to compete with obama campaign come NOw- thru conventions and fall debate? am i wrong that's what i ask?
Darn, Perry is beating Roemer by .4%. I'm disappointed
Now it's Paul's turn.
I just flipped away from Fox so I missed that. Up to that point I thought they were actually, really 'fair and balanced' in their coverage of all the candidates. Better than Iowa coverage.
This would be a good time for a sincere, written apology from Craig for....idiot of the month. Big enough for it Craig? Well all act like it never happened.
Apparently Ron Paul was also elected president of New Hampshire today.
@342 - They went to the map to compare his 2008 and 2012 totals, suggesting he wasn't doing much better. Then when they looked at the updated numbers he was doing much better.
Interesting that MWS left at the same time.
The endless "Fox Hunt." Killing themselves looking under rocks for SOMETHING negative to say about Mitt.
Hannity was hilarious on radio today, saying something mildly favorable about Mitt--and then panicking, literally shaking in his boots: "I'm not in favor of anybody--I'm not in favor of Mitt. I'm just making this one little ittle bitty point. Don't anybody get the wrong idea I'm saying something nice about Mitt."
typical night. Mitts wins big...jax can't help himself from calling everyone a "moron" despite me telling him that just reflects poorly on his upbringing.
Poor jax...what will you do if your Mittness actually loses one of these contests?
I really don't think turnout is down. I finally found town-by-town results from '08 (http://www.boston.com/news/politics/2008/nh/nh_primary_gop_results_by_town/) and, in Londonberry, for instance, it seems like roughly 5100 turned out in '08 while roughly 5300 turned out this time. In Manchester, in '08, I'm getting about 14,625. This time, I'm getting about 15531. Concord '08 I'm getting 6241. Concord '12 I'm getting 6788. So, as I said, I just think the smaller stuff comes in more quickly.
359..yes he was
LOL ... Ron Paul slamming the Union Leader. LOL!!!
"Now it’s Paul’s turn."
And this is why, on the eighth day, God created the mute button...
Romney up to 37%
Ron Paul just slammed the NH Union Leader - LMAO.
Greg, once you pull that lever it matters not what your motivation was. Go for it. Romney's not the only one that knows how to raise money. Perry does. Problem is, that's where Perry's skill set ends.
358 That make me think maybe "Craig of the month" would be nicer than "Craig for idiots", which I've never really liked.
lol @ new hampshire union leader. Ron Paul is hilarious.
Ron Paul thanked the Union Leader for not endorsing him. I never pictured him with much of a sense of humor.
#363: jax has resigned himself to a life of celibacy. Frustration and loneliness would make you mean, too.
and for others the volume up bottom
look paul is my second choice he will create bipartisanship like never before Democrats and Republicans will come together just to override all his vetoes.
Up to 37% with 35% in - the RCP avaerage BTW
364 - It is not down. CNN said it was projected to be up. MWS just has to have something to whine about so he made that one up.
So how far back do you have to finish in this contest to lose your posting privileges? I'm counting on that "golden triangle" to get me back in the game.
LOL, Paul equates dangerous to our national security to dangerous to the status quo.
The Union Leader is the big loser tonight. Their endorsement now means NOTHING.
Prediction thread...Thank you. I hope to narrow that gap a bit more before we're through.
Paul is so happy. It makes me think if he actually WON New Hampshire he'd do the 6 flags dance.
LOL ... Obama only getting 80% of the Democrat vote.
I'll tell you what, I'd rather be at the Paul party tonight. Something tells me all those college kids are going to party hearty.
Federal Reserve lecture now. It's been a long day, Paul.
I heard 240K turned out in 2008. NH officials are projecting 250K this year. So turnout may be up.
Also 2012 has a wider field. 2008 it was a 2 man race essentially.
So the ankle biters need to show some reality, man up and just say congrats.
It won't kill you and may earn you some respect.
The SC Focus Group dialers are not liking Ron Paul's speech very much.
Ron Paul's comments are flat-lining in SC. Libertarian appeasement is not going to play well in military-loving South Carolina.
If I can get Paul to fall to around 21% then I'll be doing much better on the prediction front.
Paul got a short blip (mostly from women) for his line about bringing the military sons home.
391 - and that is amoung Republicans
Romney won huge in the towns and cities close to Boston last time. Close to 50% in some of them. None of them have reported yet. His lead will increase.
Santy only 40 votes behind the Grinch
Another blip for Paul on the huge 1 Trillion cut
LOL, Paul says we shouldn't send other countries money & we didn't have to fight the Soviet Union because they bankrupted themselves by invading Afghanistan.
Do you think that if the Huntsman campaign did not fabricate the story about the web ad against his Chinese adopted kids (against Paul), the results would have been any different?
Paul's speech is flucuating wildly. Romney's never went into negative territory, Paul's have gone up and down the whole time.
Romney running ahead of his 2008 numbers in nearly every area. MWS's meme is total bullcrap.
I need to get out of the betting game.
To provide a dissenting opinion, Mark Sanford won twice with a distinctly libertarian platform and record, and DeMint fares pretty well.
I've changed my mind, Paul's got a great foreign policy; we won't invade other countries, we'll manipulate other countries into invading each other. Brilliant.
Oh my God. Is Paul going to keep going all night? Dude, you came in 2nd. Wrap it up.
398 - Paul is "educating" people vs. trying to have a campaign slogan. He knows he is not going to win...that is not the point....He is setting up a run for Rand Paul in 4 years...
What are the odds that Romney will get to 40%? I'm hearing alot of the STRONG Romney areas have still yet to report?
In the small town of Stratford, there were 56 votes last time. Now there's 73. Obviously, these are small samples but I've picked them pretty randomly and thus far they've all come up higher than '08. But even Nate Silver has apparently bought the "turnout looks lower" line. I'd love to see him explain that.
Those people are bored. After a while they start to wonder what happens when they turn their dials to the negative side.
I think Paul will do well in South Carolina, but not as well as he has done in New Hampshire. They are a different type of independent there. A lot more religious (though not as fundamentally evangelical as the small group of people that go to the caucuses in Iowa).
I think Ron Paul's speech will help him going forward. He finally sounds sane and he's got a few really good talking points.
402 If only that was what he was saying. He would have vetoed the spending that allowed Afghanistan to beat the Soviet Union.
California's PRIMARY is in June will they still have a say?
Up to 38% now! I want to see a revised leaderboard!
I must say, Paul is an infinitely better candidate since 2008. Anyone else notice?
Those interested in gauging Romney's performance may take interest in this resource:
Unlikely - but 38% or 39% is quite possible.
My prediction is coming out to be very strong tonight.
I like Paul tonight too.
406 - Or look at Kensington, in the southeast corner. Mitt has 271 votes compared to 160 in 2008. He lost the town in 2008 and won it big this time. The idea that he isn't doing better this time is just blatantly false.
I think Paul took a shot of whiskey before coming on stage and it's flipped his crazy switch into overdrive.
25% of us up here noticed
419 I was starting to think I was the only one who thinks he's had a few.
2172 in Concord this time; 1577 in Concord in 2008. Mitt is blowing out his 2008 numbers.
seems liked the sc voters liked that stuff
Absolutely, and he has run a much more effective (read: conventional) campaign this time 'round.
Case in point: at the Ames Straw Poll, which I attended, he devoted nearly his entire speech to abortion. Could you imagine him doing that in '08? Heck no!
Turn out may be down, but I say they're lucky people still call themselves Republicans
Does someone want to explain to me how Romney has 38% of the male vote, 40% of the female vote, but only 37% of the overall vote?
Romney up to 38% with 41% of precints reporting
Is Paul still talking...? Good grief...
414 - He is much better at his stump speech. He has improved in debates as well, but when he gets flustered he loses his ability to speak without slurring.
LOL @ how closely Huntsman's campaign signage resembles McCain's, right down to the "Country First" slogan.
#427 He lost the transgender vote?
426 - It is not down.
427 Is that from exit surveys? Because a lot of RP supporters make it hard to tell.
I was so gonna say what #432 just said.
Oh well, down to 37% w/ 45% in.
No doubt about it. Although I will concede that at least some of the mountain has come to Mohammed.
429 Is that any way to talk about "President Paul"? 😉
I hate having New Hampshire so early where you do not have to be a party member to vote. With half of the votes from Independents, it is a moderate buffer to who should really elect. It is what screwed up Romney's campaign last year and what is screwing up Santorum's campaign this year.
Romney is dominating southern NH. LOOK at the new results coming in.
Romney DOMINATING Nashua, Merrimack, Amherst, Mont Vernon, etc.
"Because it was a close race … moron."
No need to name call. Your guy is winning, remember?
2008 wasn't that close in Iowa. Huck kicked Mitt's arse. In fact, the margin was almost as large as Mitt's tonight.
Well improved things a bit. I did alright except I low-balled Romney and highballed Huntsman. I expected Huntsman to cut into the child of wealth, former Governor, Mormon, Establishment niche that Romney has going for him.
I suspect if Huntsman had been given a few more days he'd have reached second place.
The next time someone suggests that Fox is in the tank for Romney, they need to be perma-banned for being terminally stupid.
Fox News for some laughs! Juan Williams and Bill Kristol. Frieking geniuses!
Come on, Rum! Get ahead of Newt! You have been behind him all night. Just jump over him already! Go, Go, Go!!!
FOX NEWS MAKES ME SICK. I WILL NEVER WATCH THEM AGAIN FOR ELECTION COVERAGE. DISGRACE.
LOL. "terminally stupid."
Disappointing but as-expected results. I guess the only silver-lining for conservatives is that Romney does not appear likely to top 40% and the story line coming out of NH will be that conservatives remain fractured in every way except for the fact that we're opposed to Romney.
I had something of an epiphany tonight - I finally understood why so many people I know (under-30 voters who are well-educated, well-informed and fundamentally conservative, i.e. in favor of limited government) support Congressman Ron Paul. Every other candidate is beholden to one or several establishment Republican groups be it Wall Street, the James Dobsons, the NY/DC establishment, etc.
Will I support Paul? Not likely as a result thanks to his insane stances on foreign policy issues. That said, I have used my ballot as a protest vote before (e.g. voting for the Libertarian candidate in 2006 in CO-4 against Marylin Musgrave for whom I interned during college but with whom I disagreed on a whole host of issues) and I am not afraid to do it again. I am not going to vote for Romney. If Romney is the GOP nominee I will proudly and unapologeticly cast my ballot for a 3rd party nominee. I will do so not because I believe said 3rd party candidate (be it Paul, Johnson, or whomever) would make the best president but rather because I refuse to stomach the squishy, flip-flopping moderate that is Romney. This party and this country deserve better.
Perhaps it is time for us true conservatives to form a 3rd party of our own, one that will be true to the limited government model upon which this movement was founded. The Republican party, as currently constituted, is obviously not interested in our votes. Let's see how the GOP does in the absence of those who vote for limited government.
Okay. We're almost at 50% in.
Mitt '12 still trails Mitt '08 by about 900, but he's closed a lot of that gap.
I have to say, I've been very impressed with CNN's coverage throughout this campaign. They seem, dare I say it, pretty fair and balanced.
Watch CNN, it's way better.
Wow. Turnout is down, down, down. 240k voters participated in the NH GOP primary in 2008. The way this is going, it'll be less than 200k this time.
And that's with Paul bringing the Indies.
And that's with a non-competitive Dem primary.
Mitt wins tonight, but it ain't looking too good for GOP enthusiasm come November.
How many times do I have to explain to the Paul supporters that Rand Paul is no gonna for POTUS in 2016. First of all, if Romney beats Obama, Rand will not run in 2016. Secondly, even if by some chance Obama wins, Rand will still not run. In 2016, Rand will only be running for re-election of his Kentucky Senate seat.
Looking at the exit polls ... Romney would have been about where I projected him (48%) if there weren't democrats voting for Paul in this race.
Your straw arguments are amusing in a funny way, not an interesting way. Desperation? Yup.
447. nice try. Exit polling shows Romney winning the conservative vote. Keep them coming.
Lol. You got anything interesting to say? Let's see how turnout goes.
was looking at the primary calendar and noticed California’s PRIMARY is in June will they still have a say?
CNN just ripping the hell out of Huntsman's ludicrous pretense that 3rd and 20% down was a "win".
Nope. It will be over long before June.
I watch CNN for analysis. I watch Fox News for laughs.
I was cheering.
More than half of the people that voted were independent or Democrats. Romney would have gotten 50% if this were a closed primary.
"Your straw arguments are amusing in a funny way"
457 - Yeah. Let's see how it goes. This pathetically weak field can't even generate 2008-level turnout, even without a Messiah sucking all the oxygen from the room.
You know, it's kind of liberating to root against the Republican nominee.
This is a great night! When can we start talking about possible choices for VP? What do you all think of a Romney/Rand Paul? or Romney/Rubio? Romney/Christy?
#442: Just listen to them (Fox) now. You would think Mitt was battling for fourth. His win means nothing. Not enough spread. He spent too many resources. He has a house here. And then Juan Willians is saying he "seemed angry at Obama and angry at other Republicans." While Paul seemed "happy." Yup, Paul is very happy.
People are right; no Mormon can win the presidency. They are not "happy" enough.
Exit polls have him at 45% among Pubs. But your point stands.
Is CNN streaming?
459 Massachusetts Conservative when do you see this over if you had to guess??
The fact that candidates aren't dropping out like they should is another testament to how crappy the field is.
The losers look around and say, "C'Mon, I can't be as bad as that guy. I'll stick around and see what happens."
Given the volatility of this race, I can't say I blame them.
CNN is debating whether or not Romney should go all in in South Carolina. I say what the hell; go for it. It's time to crush Newt in his home region of the country.
By Super Tuesday.
467 OK I'll switch to Fox for laughs, but if CNN says something interesting I'd better read it here on Race. LOL.
449 - Moron ... look at the town by town results. Romney is killing his 2008 numbers:
Here are the links:
Don't make a further fool of yourself by pushing this absurd meme. He is doing better across the board.
Oh no, we have to listen to Sarah Palin. "It was very predictable that Mitt would do well since NH is 'center left.' "
I'm all done with Sarah Palin. Why should I care what a half term governor from a state with a population the size of Worcester, MA thinks?
Governor Huntsman's turn up now.
Go away MWS. Why post somewhere were everyone hates you?
3rd place is a ticket to ride? LOL.
451 - Its not down at all. Don't jump on the MWS bandwagon and make yourself into a fool.
Sarah interrupted by Huntsman. Aughghgh! Talk about mixed emotions!!!!
Listening to Sarah Palin. The tea partiers are making themselves irrelevant. If they can't honor free enterprise and conservative principles, they might as well go away.
Huntsman is such an idiot. I love how he just makes crap up.
We got it done? LOL.
Sorry, was out, just joined. What's happened so far?
Someone needs to remind huntsman he didn't actually win...
Huntsman sounds like he's been sucking on helium.
Huntsman is very enthusiastic for a guy who's probably met every single person who voted for him.
Huntsman is such a dork, LOL!
479. I don't hate MWS. He has a different opinion than I do. So what? Most of the time he expresses his opinions in a non-douchy way.
I still see no sign that turnout is down. It's up in Concord. It's up in Manchester. It's up in Logonberry. It's up in Franconia. Like 75% of the towns I've checked have the turnout up. I don't see how turnout ends up being substantially down and I expect it'll be up. The precinct percentage isn't an accurate reflection of the overall vote because it doesn't reflect where the votes are coming from.
We had important conversations about putting this country first (right after China).
Newt and Santy both drop below 10.0. Wow.
"We are here 20% behind 1st place, and that means we won!!!!!"
I've said it once and I'll say it again. Sarah Palin gets a bum rap among people here on this site.
20 point loser
Is Jon Huntsman crowing about coming in third???
472 - Another made up bullcrap argument by MWS.
Dorks need Presidential candidates too. After all, this is a representative democracy.
I think Huntsman did well. His strategy of hotly pursuing the lapsed Mormon vote in NH was a little questionable . . .
#493: Metro: Seriously? I truly hope they stay down. Can you make them stay down?
Men seem to think Huntsman is a tool. Go figure.
Yes, third place is great. Cause if I was in the Olympics, I'd rather win the Bronze than win the Gold.
Re my #283 on Roxbury, the numbers of all changed now. Someone must've made a typo.
Huntsman is going to square with our nation...he is finally going to admit he is a libera. Yay!
The South Carolina polls don't seem to like Huntsman.
Correction - "21% behind 1st place"
"More than half of the people that voted were independent or Democrats."
That means turnout among Republicans REALLY sucked.
We're pacing about 45,000 fewer Republican voters this time. Down about 31% from '08. And our brand was in the toilet that year.
Yikers. Thanks for making an embarrassing situation look worse.
Fox's News Spin is asinine.
Juan Williams: "It's a disppointing night ofr Romney who was polling betweeen 36 and 40% = saying this while the total flashing on screen shows Romney at 37%/
When challenged by Brett Bair on how this IS a great nioght for Romney, Juan looks like he just had an enema which went horribly arwy.
Kristol is just ticked his protoge Palin never caught on. Spoiled Media brat who needs to pi$$ in everyones Corn Flakes when he doesn't get his way.
And then comes Sarah herself, parroting Papa Rupert's Talking Points before Jon Huntsman ina benevolent move appreciated around the world, forced Fox to cut away, for his speech.
Surprising myself by saying CNN has far superior coverage tonight and in Iowa as well.
#501: Watch: Once again you have me howling.
Huntsman's speech is so bad I had to bail out...
IS SC The last chance for the Perry's / jon huntsmans ?
481 - Haha. I know you think of Mitt as a sort of demi-god, but the numbers are the numbers, dude.
And for those of you invested in a totally awesome ad-Mitt-istration, maybe you ought to temper your hopes.
Turnout in NH in 2008 was pitiful on the GOP side. It looks to be even worse this year, in a year where Independents have no reason to bother with Democrat primaries.
(Just got here......what a night!!!)
Romney back up to 38% with 51% reporting
He now has a 15 point lead over Ron Paul
very distracted tonight, watching NH returns, Blackhawks-CBJ game, and KSU-Baylor game...
Is his term limits stance a new one? I have never heard him talk about it.
Can John McCain sue Jon Huntsman for campaign slogan infringement? Country First was McCain's campaign slogan.
I don't hate MWS at all. I actually like him quite a bit. But when he gets on his condescending kick where he makes stuff up to sound authoritative (when he isn't), he gets a little obnoxious.
I'm guessing Romney ends at about 39.5%
"Huntsman is such a dork, LOL!"
It just burns you up that Mitt can only get second place in that category, doesn't it. Let's admit he put in a strong effort though.
Perry-Newt-Sant in SC......aka DEATH-MATCH down South!!!!!
>>Listening to Sarah Palin. The tea partiers are making themselves irrelevant. If they can’t honor free enterprise and conservative principles, they might as well go away.
According to the exit polls, Romney won the tea party vote.
So much for Sarah Palin.
#455 Freedom for William Wallace - I don't give good gosh darn what the exit polling in a moderate state that allows independents and Democrats to vote in a Republican primary says.
Argue all you want but those in favor of truly limited government voters are not inclined to vote for Romney. Will some? Sure. But even with a conservative rock star as his VP choice I do not think Romney will be able to close the deal with conservatives. Thus turnover in the general is reduced and, once Obama and the MSM are done with Romney, independents will break for Obama. Romney is a sure-fire loser. It's time for true limited-government conservatives to begin looking down-ticket to stop Obama.
Huntsman failing miserably on the SC Focus Group dialers.
Ron Paul got way better dials than Huntsman.