January 6, 2012

UPDATED: Nope: Did Santorum Win Iowa by 12 Votes?

A caucus goer from Iowa signed an affidavit saying that the caucus he attended gave 20 extra votes to Romney. Meaning? If what he says turns out to be true – Santorum will have won Iowa by 12 votes. Here’s an excerpt from WQAD in Iowa:

Just eight votes separated Mitt Romney and Rick Santorum in the Iowa caucuses Tuesday night but now three days later, some are questioning the outcome after a possible mix-up of votes in one county.

There’s never been a caucus as exciting as Tuesday’s. A back and forth match that didn’t end until the wee hours of Wednesday morning with only an eight vote separation between Romney and Santorum.

“It didn’t surprise me. Up until the final day we considered 45% were still undecided going into the polls,” said Vice-Chairman of the Scott county Republicans, John Ortega.

An affidavit filed Thursday by Edward True of Moulton, Iowa suggests the caucus he attended game Romney 20 more votes than he actually received.

If True’s claim is indeed true, it would give Santorum a 12 vote win…Counties have two weeks to get their certified results to the state party but Iowa G-O-P chairman Matt Strawn says there’s no reason to believe the potential miscalculation would change the outcome saying, “Out of respect to the candidates involved, party officials will not respond to every rumor, innuendo or allegation during the two week process.”

Strawn has said a recount is unnecessary because the caucus results are accurate.

I have no idea if this is true. Either way, Santorum and Romney effectively tied in Iowa.

EDIT 08:15 PM EST: Apparently I’m super behind on my news as there were 2 potential reported errors that cancel each other out in Iowa. So…again, effectively a tie and doesn’t change the results.

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26 Responses to “UPDATED: Nope: Did Santorum Win Iowa by 12 Votes?”

  1. Massachusetts Conservative Says:

    Did you read the piece at Politico, explaining that this issue was bunk?

    Did you see the interview with Greta where Santorum HIMSELF said this issue was bunk?

    Did you hear the Iowa GOP say that this issue is bunk?

  2. Micah Says:

    Yea, Santorum said that Romney recieved 21 more votes that were not counted so “did Romney win by 9 votes” should be the title.

  3. Not Your Promiscuous Daddy Says:

    Sounds like the official is an ABR and is lying to try to steal the election from Romney. But of course one of our very own ABR’s here at Race has decided to perpetuate this fraud of a story.

  4. SteveT Says:

    Here is the Politico link explaining this story about the two errors in Iowa : http://www.politico.com/blogs/burns-haberman/2012/01/iowa-gop-chairman-shoots-down-votecount-questions-109797.html

    Apparently taken together – Romney’s margin increases to 9 votes.

  5. mcon Says:

    Lol surprised you haven’t been on top of this story. Then again you do support one of the also rans. ;-0

    Long story short: this mistake was balanced out by a 21 vote under count which favors Mitt. End result is 1 vote shift to Romney

  6. ogrepete Says:

    Here is an interesting post on the subject. He essentially says that having “only” two errors on election night would be very, very good and that we’ll never really know who won Iowa.

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/why-well-never-really-know-who-won-iowa-caucuses_616107.html

  7. Heath Says:

    Relax we will find out in 2 weeks. Either way it was a virtual tie, and either way Heath’s bookie has already paid out on a Romney win :).

  8. Matthew Newman Says:

    I’ve been in the field at work all day, so just catching up on news. Sorry I’m a bit behind. Wasn’t intended to be a hit piece. As I said – less than 10 votes is effectively a tie.

    Also, I’m not a Santorum fan…so there’s that.

  9. Matthew Kilburn Says:

    Are Romney and Santorum even in Sunday’s debate?

  10. SJ Reidhead Says:

    Is it possible that vote fraud was going on in Iowa? The rumors I keep hearing suggest as much. When you allow on the spot voter registration and don’t bother verifying the home address of those thousands of people bussed in from out of state, that’s what you get. The GOP is starting to make the organization formerly known as ACORN look almost honest.

    SJR
    The Pink Flamingo

  11. Jason Bonham Says:

    8. So less then 10 votes is a tie, but more than 10 is not? So basically, if Romney got 9 votes, it’s still a tie, but if he got 11 it wouldn’t? This makes no sense. That 2 more votes would mean it’s not a tie, but 9 more votes doesn’t. Ridiculous. ROMNEY WON! Lol.

  12. Matthew Newman Says:

    #11 – Jason Bonham – Read the end of the article where I say, “Either way, Santorum and Romney effectively tied in Iowa.” So yes, 10, 8, 12 – effective tie.

    Updated the piece based on the articles linked – I was way behind on this story.

  13. Matthew Kilburn Says:

    “Is it possible that vote fraud was going on in Iowa?”

    Its possible, but unlikely. For one, the difference doesn’t seem to be more than a dozen and a half votes or so one way or the other. In any normal election, fraud of that variety would be far too small to swing the race. For another, even assuming that someone just wanted “insurance”, the results would still be so close that the news story at the end of the night, and the delegate counts, would be unchanged.

  14. John Galt Says:

    I aslo just signed an affidavit that states i saw barack obama when he was born and it was in a terrorist twon in afganistan.

  15. John Galt Says:

    who cares anyway. it was a tie and everybody knows it. neither gets anymore delegates if it were changed. santorum was basically seen by the media as the winner anyway.

  16. K.G. Says:

    Funnier was O’Reilly interviewing Huckabee just now. O’R kept trying to make the point that “Santorum is like you, Huckabee.” (Meaning won out of nowhere as the evangelical vote.) But each time O’R said it, it was met by complete silence by the unhappy Huckabee.

    Well, I don’t blame Huck. We know Huckabee and Santorum is no Huckabee.

  17. Jeff Fuller Says:

    That Jason bonham character really has his panties in a bunch. Don’t worry mr Newman, Bonham’s just sort of a jerk.

  18. Florida Conservative Says:

    A win by 1 vote is still a Win, just because he won by 8 or 9 votes doesn’t mean its still effectively a tie, thats like saying a favored football team over a bad team only won by 1 point and saying it was effectively a tie, No, it is a Win.

    Iowa, New Hamphire, SC and FL = Nomination!

  19. Jeff Fuller Says:

    ;) I’m actually friends with Jason and giving him a hard time.

  20. asparagus Says:

    Intersting piece on Santorum on CNN now.

  21. K.G. Says:

    IMO it’s more important for Mitt the “weak” frontrunner to be seen as the winner. Santorum gets just as much a bounce from a small loss.

    But, no, this is not like football. Who knows what these real number are? And who cares? It was essentially a tie–and both camps got what they needed out of it. People have already moved on to SC. We all need to move on too.

  22. Liz Says:

    Fuller is known for his marijuana brownies. (fair is fair)

    Romney won, bunch of pansies in this country now. Don’t worry, Santorum will at least get a participation trophy and a sucker.

  23. Jason Bonham Says:

    17. I should punch you, but I never hit a guy with glasses.

    12. I was saying this in jest, but you did say the # 10 as a benchmark for tie vs. non-tie in comment #8.

  24. Bags Says:

    What a ridiculous article. There are a few mnutes I’ll never get back.

  25. Zeek Says:

    16 On the topic of Huckabee. I was harsh on him in the past (I might add I think justifiably so.) But I have admit I thought he would be vindictive towards Romney as a tv commentator. I appear to have been wrong. I have to give Huck Kudos for being even handed towards Romney, even when he had a strong but respectful interview with him on his show. I know people have said that fOX has been biased against Romney. (I seldom watch tv shows) My question for anyone is…with the “Negative Romney” slant from Fox, does it seems Huckabee has been fair? (I am fine with objective analysis)

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