December 17, 2010

Poll Watch: PPP (D) Wisconsin 2012 Democratic Presidential Survey

  2:44 pm

PPP (D) Wisconsin 2012 Democratic Presidential Survey

Who would you like to see the Republicans nominate for President in 2012: Mitch Daniels, Newt Gingrich, Mike Huckabee, Sarah Palin, Ron Paul, Tim Pawlenty, Mitt Romney or John Thune?

  • Sarah Palin 21%
  • Mike Huckabee 15%
  • Mitt Romney 9%
  • Ron Paul 9%
  • Newt Gingrich 5%
  • Mitch Daniels 2%
  • Tim Pawlenty 2%
  • John Thune 1%
  • Someone else/Undecided 36%

In 2012 would you most like the Democratic Presidential nominee to be Barack Obama, someone more liberal than Barack Obama, someone more conservative than Barack Obama, or are you not sure?

  • Barack Obama 70%
  • Someone more liberal 9%
  • Someone more conservative 14%
  • Not sure 7%

Do you approve or disapprove of President Barack Obama’s job performance?

  • Approve 83%
  • Disapprove 10%

Survey of 300 usual Democratic primary voters was conducted December 10-12, 2010. The margin of error is +/- 5.7 percentage points. Political ideology: 52% Moderate; 38% Liberal; 10% Conservative.

Inside the numbers:

“You don’t hear about them nearly as much but there are actually more Democrats severely unhappy with Barack Obama from the right than there are on the left,” said Dean Debnam, President of Public Policy Polling. “Meanwhile Democratic voters seem to realize their best hope at getting Obama reelected is for the Republicans to nominate Sarah Palin.”



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Obama's real intra party challenge

The media's spent a lot of energy the last couple weeks on the specter of a challenge to Barack Obama from the left for the Democratic Presidential nomination in 2012. Here's a curveball- there are actually more Democratic primary voters in Ohio and Wisconsin who would like a more conservative nominee than Obama in 2012 than there are ones who would like someone more liberal.

Mind you there aren't many Democrats who want Obama deposed anyway- 70% in Wisconsin and 67% in Ohio would like him to be the nominee for a second term. But most of those who would like a different face want one to Obama's right- in Ohio 15% would like a more conservative nominee to only 7% who want someone more liberal and in Wisconsin 14% would like a more conservative nominee to 9% who want someone more liberal.

Even if liberal Democrats are unhappy with Obama on the tax deal- and our polls earlier this week in these states showed they are- it's not having too big an impact on their overall reviews of him. 93% in Wisconsin approve of the job Obama's doing compared to 80% of moderate Democrats and 63% of conservative ones. Ohio liberals are more unhappy with Obama- his approval with them is 76%, lower than his 78% with moderate ones. His standing with conservative Democrats in Ohio is all the way down at 43%.

Conservative Democrats are ultimately a bigger threat to Obama's reelection prospects than liberal ones. They don't necessarily make a lot of noise about it when they're unhappy- they just go out and vote for Republicans. Liberals on the other hand really have nowhere to go- they can stay at home or vote for Ralph Nader but ultimately that's just going to get them someone who makes them a lot more unhappy than Obama. It's not a pleasant reality, but in our two party system that's just the way it goes- conservatives definitely have more leverage than liberals within the Democratic coalition and that's why they so often get their way despite their smaller numbers.


Romney no better than Paul?

What's happening Mittens??


This is a poll of DEMOCRATS!!!

Lol - you should have made this clear. I'm a Rombot and nearly fell of my chair.


It's very obvious who the Democrats would want to be our candidate? They are 100% certain that they would beat her. Maybe this will finally tell he Palnistas something...nah, never mind, forget it.....brain washed and all that.


Hmmm, so the Dems want Huck and Palin. Sounds about right to me. Heh.


margin of error is +/- 5.7 percentage points


Someone must have goofed.

PPP surveyed 400 usual Wisconsin Republican primary voters from December 10th to

12th. The survey’s margin of error is +/-4.9%. Other factors, such as refusal to be

interviewed and weighting, may introduce additional error that is more difficult to


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Sorry. I went to the ppp site and found the wrong poll. But, it looks like both Dems and Republicans want Palin and Huckabee more than they do Romney.



I'll take THAT, Granny T :)


Sarahcuda is doing to Libs,corrupt GOP establishment

and the rest of RINOs,exactly what she did to those

halibuts:beat 'em over the heads.

What a thrill to watch!


What happened to our "front runner" Mitt Romney?

No criticism,just asking?

I'm sure all those highly paid consultants,advisers,

pollsters,hacks,flacks and flunkies are trembling

in their boots.Pard' me,in their Birkenstock shoos,

worried about their fat meal ticket.


Palin’s Got Bigger Problems Than Charles Krauthammer

by Jonathan S. Tobin

Last night on Bill O’Reilly’s show, the FOX News host asked Sarah Palin what she thought about columnist Charles Krauthammer’s observation that the former Alaska governor’s reality TV show, in which she hangs out with fellow TLC network reality star Kate Gosselin, wasn’t exactly presidential.

Palin could have merely responded that she and the eminent analyst had a lot in common lately, as both have been critical of the Republican congressional leadership’s tax deal with President Obama, and that her qualifications for the presidency should be judged by her conservative policy stands, not a television show that everyone knows is meant as entertainment intended to boost her public profile.

But, as even those of us who have been inclined to judge her more favorably than much of the chattering class have come to understand, Sarah Palin is every bit as thin-skinned as the man she’d like to replace in the White House. Her response was vintage Palin, combining a sort of schoolyard banter with bristling resentment. “Oooh. Sorry that I’m not so hoity-toity,” was the best she could come up with as a retort while gesturing that she was not someone who had to put her finger in the air to determine what to think, as if the intellectual yet down-to-earth conservative sage Krauthammer was some liberal media consultant. Just as disturbing as the obnoxiousness of her response was the vague thought that perhaps she’s not quite sure who exactly Krauthammer is. I know she probably isn’t reading his columns (which ought to be required reading for every serious student of politics and policy, no matter where they are on the political spectrum), but you’d think she watches the network where both appear regularly.

But Palin has bigger problems than Krauthammer. A new Washington Post/ABC News poll shows that 60 percent of registered voters said they would “definitely not consider” voting for Palin for president and that she would lose to President Obama in a head-to-head match-up by a margin of 53-40 percent.

Palin’s popularity among Republicans continues to be high, and she will be a formidable contender for the GOP nomination if, as appears likely, she runs. But her appeal is limited to those who already share her views. Palin’s resentment of the Washington establishment and perhaps even of such intellectual gatekeepers of the conservative movement as Krauthammer may resonate with many conservative voters, but her attitude (which is the opposite of conservative icon Ronald Reagan’s genial responses to hostile media) alienates everyone else.

Everything she does and says lately seems geared toward reinforcing the negative opinion of that 60 percent already convinced that she isn’t qualified to be the commander in chief. And there’s simply no way that a person that six out of 10 voters wouldn’t vote for under any circumstances can be elected president.

So, rather than taunting people like Krauthammer, who merely said aloud what so many others are thinking about her unpresidential demeanor, maybe Sarah Palin ought to be waking up to the fact that she is simply unelectable.

RE: Palin’s Got Bigger Problems Than Charles Krauthammer

by Peter Wehner

Jonathan, I agree with your superb analysis of Sarah Palin’s interview with Bill O’Reilly — and specifically, her response to what Charles Krauthammer said.

Krauthammer was actually quite gentle in his critique. If his words cause this kind of bristling, defensive response from her, she is simply unprepared to endure a presidential run, quite apart from her disquieting (and quite striking) inability to engage in a serious discussion about policy.

Virtually every time Ms. Palin speaks out, she reinforces some of the worst impressions or deepest concerns many of us have about her. If she were to become the voice and representative of the GOP and the modern conservatism movement, both would suffer a massive rejection.

Sarah Palin will not be elected president; and for her sake, I hope she decides not to run.


I'll take Krauthammer any and every day of celeb-politican Palin any day. Although it nice to see Palin following Romney's lead on the START treaty today.

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